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Old 02-27-2009, 11:28 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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= a proper North American union, much like the European Union.

At the end of the day, if Mexico prospers, few Mexicans are going to want to jump the border.

We can work with the Mexican government on cracking down on crime / drug cartels. The Mexican president is a brain, like him or not and I believe he'd work with us on this issue.

Or we can continue to bury our heads in the sand, while complaining about "illegals" 24/7?

The fact is that we can help Mexico & Mexico can help us.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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= a proper North American union, much like the European Union.

At the end of the day, if Mexico prospers, few Mexicans are going to want to jump the border.

We can work with the Mexican government on cracking down on crime / drug cartels. The Mexican president is a brain, like him or not and I believe he'd work with us on this issue.

Or we can continue to bury our heads in the sand, while complaining about "illegals" 24/7?

The fact is that we can help Mexico & Mexico can help us.
I believe they have already started testing the waters with NAFTA and a relaxed response to illegal immigration over the last few decades.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:08 AM
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IMO you might be able to get Americans to do those "Mexican " jobs if there was nationalized health care, I know plenty of people who would pick citrus and vegies if they had health care
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Old 02-28-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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Do you have any idea of the economic parity of the nations of the EU compared to the economic disparity between Mexico and the US? Are you willing to work for Mexican wages?
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Old 02-28-2009, 02:29 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Unless you have a white collar job you better fear anything that opens a door to Mexican labor. We've already seen what happens when you have Union jobs and illegal labor side by side.
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Old 02-28-2009, 02:33 PM
 
Location: southern california
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we are helping mexico, big time, 2nd largest source of income for mexico, us.
illegal immigration is not a problem its a solution to low cost labor shortage.
under the table NAFTA for last 30 years. problem now is mexico is rampant with crime
we are the overflow. gangbangers looking for a better life are now the norm.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Using Spain as a proxy for Mexico: that nation had to get its own socio-economic house in order first then it was handed the keys to the candy store (Schengen Agreement, use of the Euro, etc).

Translation: Mexico has to earn respect----------------not demand it.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:57 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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If Mexicans had a standard of living even close to ours, they wouldn't jump the border. I know it's not our problem to help Mexico, but it'd save us a damn heck load of trouble if we did. Mexico's president is a very smart man and I'm sure he'd work with us, if we established some preconditions. There's no reason that Mexico should be a bad place to live...I mean, look at the example of Chile...a successful, truly first world Latin American nation. Mexico can definitely follow suit, especially if we give them our guidance and support.

I'd love to see Mexico as successful as the USA....Canada, the USA & Mexico...what a great combo!
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Old 02-28-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Until things change in Mexico where a small percentage have all the wealth it isn't going to happen. That is how civil wars start.
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Old 02-28-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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If Mexicans had a standard of living even close to ours, they wouldn't jump the border. I know it's not our problem to help Mexico, but it'd save us a damn heck load of trouble if we did. Mexico's president is a very smart man and I'm sure he'd work with us, if we established some preconditions. There's no reason that Mexico should be a bad place to live...I mean, look at the example of Chile...a successful, truly first world Latin American nation. Mexico can definitely follow suit, especially if we give them our guidance and support.

I'd love to see Mexico as successful as the USA....Canada, the USA & Mexico...what a great combo!
I think you are right! It's not our problem. You think
we should dismantle the border crossings?? Would save us a lot of trouble, right ? Fidel Castro is a pretty smart guy. People in Cuba love him. Im not trying to rain on your parade, I just can't follow your logic. I think they don't want our guidance just our $$$$$$ support.
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