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So, what are we suppose to discuss in this forum (Illegal Immigration)
Illegal aliens of course!.
IMMIGRANTS are those that come to the US from another country LEGALLY and STRIVE to become American and to adapt to our culture and obey our laws. And to contribute and give back to our society
ILLEGAL ALIENS are those that come to the US from another country ILLEGALLY and REFUSE to become American or to adapt to our culture or obey our laws. And to take our services and anything else than can scam.
So as Bostonian123 said above - "Illegal aliens are not immigrants".
This is a great article on the negative effects of deportation. I dont encourage immigrating illegally but I do feel that at this point it would save braking up families and support our economy if we legalize immigrants that have been here for a great number of years and have been contributing to our economy by paying taxes.
For decades following the Civil War, many parts of the South lingered in chaos and poverty, suffering from the 'sudden absence of their slaves'. Must have been a tough adjustment.....but you're not trying to suggest that we should seriously consider bringing back slavery, are you?
Illegal immigration is a "bad" system. Employing underpaid, vulnerable, exploitable, under-protected, illegal 'help' is not the mark of a "healthy" economy. Any town, or any industry, that suffers unduly because it suddenly 'loses its illegals' was doing something wrong BEFORE it lost them.
For decades following the Civil War, many parts of the South lingered in chaos and poverty, suffering from the 'sudden absence of their slaves'. Must have been a tough adjustment.....but you're not trying to suggest that we should seriously consider bringing back slavery, are you?
Illegal immigration is a "bad" system. Employing underpaid, vulnerable, exploitable, under-protected, illegal 'help' is not the mark of a "healthy" economy. Any town, or any industry, that suffers unduly because it suddenly 'loses its illegals' was doing something wrong BEFORE it lost them.
Hello my dear macmeal!
In regards to your statement, I think this is why people are in favor of an amnesty, to avoid all that you stated above and at the same time we would not have any loss in the economy of those communities.
This is a great article on the negative effects of deportation. I dont encourage immigrating illegally but I do feel that at this point it would save braking up families and support our economy if we legalize immigrants that have been here for a great number of years and have been contributing to our economy by paying taxes.
Great post
Who do you think you are kidding? Illegal aliens break up their own families and leave them in mexico every single day to come to the US illegally and start new ones in order to rape America's social services and deplete our tax dollars. Those who do work do so in order to send remittances to "support your" (aka mexico's) economy.
You would be better off wasting your time telling Flor that her 3 children haven't seen her in SEVEN YEARS and that she needs to take her sorry butt back to mexico to see if they or the mother she dumped them on 7 YEARS AGO are still alive.
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Flor Crisóstomo has lived in the U.S. for six years and worked at IFCO Systems, a company that manufactures wooden pallets. She was arrested along with 25 others in a workplace raid in April. Flor has three children in Mexico.
http://socialistworker.org/2006-1/592/592_12_HungerStrikers.shtmll (broken link)
Those who are deported have the ability to take every single one of their family members back with them, including anchors. We don't want them and we certainly don't need to legalize millions of 3rd grade educated, non assimilating criminals who will NEVER earn enough money to taxes.
Any taxes that they might pay are returned via EIC when they file taxes at the end of the year. Again, who do you think you're kidding
Legalizing millions of poverty stricken, uneducated, low wage earners equals a net zero in terms of benefiting any country which is why mexico continues to send it's poverty stricken masses to the US.
Sorry the pinata has been busted and the party is over.
In regards to your statement, I think this is why people are in favor of an amnesty, to avoid all that you stated above and at the same time we would not have any loss in the economy of those communities.
OK, OK, there you go...."all heart" but no practicality!
I don't expect to change your mind, but remember this...when the slaves were 'amnestised' (freed) after the civil war, their problems didn't go away. MOST of them immediately became the newest rank of "free labor"..they ended up in direct competition with the REST of the "free labor" (poverty-stricken whites) and BOTH groups ended up spending decades as 'share-croppers' in a 'dog-eat-dog' feudal system in which the "rich" who ran the South benefitted by pitting poor black against poor white.
This analogy is only PARTIALLY applicable to the present-day situation....but I seriously doubt that simply giving amnesty to 20 million "formerly illegals" would be very well accepted by the public. I have no doubt that serious problems would follow, and probably the "amnestised" group would be forced to CONTINUALLY "prove" their right to be here, since they would be seen as 'coming in through the back door'.
Remember, this isn't the FIRST amnesty we've considered. Does it seem to YOU like the earlier ones 'worked'?
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