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"No by the gov't. The gov't is punishing them for the parent's actions."
Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge the culpability of the parents in creating the situation which the children are in? If the parents did not commit the crime, the children would not be subject to the conditions. Let's put responsibility where it belongs.
"What they did do is try to give a better life for their children."
So if I rob a bank, it's ok as long as I say 'But I just want to use the money to give my child a better life!' Might the depositors at that bank take a different view, demand their money back, and also demand that I be imprisoned, thus denying my child a parental figure? How cruel and uncaring of those people to do that to my child!
And I still think that shipping containers can play a role in the solution here!
"What they did do is try to give a better life for their children."
So if I rob a bank, it's ok as long as I say 'But I just want to use the money to give my child a better life!' Might the depositors at that bank take a different view, demand their money back, and also demand that I be imprisoned, thus denying my child a parental figure? How cruel and uncaring of those people to do that to my child!
And I still think that shipping containers can play a role in the solution here!
The correct analogy would be, if you rob a bank, the child goes to jail with you. Does that make sense any sense to you?
What if their children do not become successful? And even if they do, guess what? The amnestied DREAMies are not going to pay all the bills for their parents. If madre and padre never graduated from HS, perhaps never even made it as far as HS in order to dropout, and do not speak English, they will be suited for no type of work except unskilled labor. How many 60+ year olds do your see framing houses or replacing shingles on roofs? Not many. Beyond late middle age, most people simply are no longer able to perform hard manual labor. When padre is no longer able to work painting houses in the 90 degree heat all summer, what is going to happen? He can't even get a job as the greeter at Walmart because he would not be able to tell a customer that the toasters are in aisle 16 in English. He will either go on welfare or disability since he is now a 'citizen', thanks to sponsorship by the DREAMie offspring. American society ends up supporting him. And aforementioned DREAMie is not going to pay for all madre and padre's medical care out of his or her pocket. They will go on Medicaid. When they are 65, they will be eligible for Medicare and SS despite having paid little or nothing into the system. Having them here benefits no one except the DREAMie and it is real questionable as to whether having a DREAMie here benefits anyone other than themselves.
The end result is always the same. The illegals are rewarded for breaking the rules and the rest of us foot the bill.
Can't rep ya, so will tell you here that this is an excellent post and what I would have said had I sat here and typed it. (Make sense? )
"No by the gov't. The gov't is punishing them for the parent's actions."
Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge the culpability of the parents in creating the situation which the children are in? If the parents did not commit the crime, the children would not be subject to the conditions. Let's put responsibility where it belongs.
"What they did do is try to give a better life for their children."
So if I rob a bank, it's ok as long as I say 'But I just want to use the money to give my child a better life!' Might the depositors at that bank take a different view, demand their money back, and also demand that I be imprisoned, thus denying my child a parental figure? How cruel and uncaring of those people to do that to my child!
And I still think that shipping containers can play a role in the solution here!
I'd like to continue the converstation, but I can't untill you understand differences in crime. See, what's amazing is that you (and others) have this giant logical flaw in your analogies. That is one of the downfalls of America; we support policies based on unsound logic.
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