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Old 06-13-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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"They think they can use intimidation to not pay us for work we've done, " said Jeronimo Salguero, the director of the Central American Resource Center (carecen) Los Angeles, speaking in Spanish at the New Orleans rally.
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U.S. immigration policy reflects a policy toward the global workforce better suited to dictatorships than democracies. In today’s globally enmeshed and integrated economic systems, students, skilled and unskilled workers and professionals from around the globe are demanding just, humane and generative immigration/migration regulations that foster individual and societal growth and economic equity.

Unfortunately, the U.S. immigration system is not meeting the needs of individuals, business or countries. CARECEN is working to change repressive regulations that separate family members, undermine educational opportunities and encourage racial and ethnic discrimination
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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Actually, this is a good thing. If employers actually had to pay these people normal wages, they couldn't underbid honest contractors anymore. There would be no benefit to hiring illegals.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:43 PM
 
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So they diod, and they probably feel what's the worst that can happen, I get sent back? At least they're making a stand. And I applaud them for doing so.

It was so the companies rebuilding NO could hire them in the first place that Bush suspended Davis-Bacon.

Now the greedy companies want to take it further, and the workers are standing up against that. Good for the workers
Make no mistake, I have no fondness for business who would hire illegal labor. The only reason to do so would be to undercut wages, shortcut safety regulations and not have to pay benefits. In short, businesses who hire illegals do so in order to exploit labor and make a bigger profit. It is a dirty business that needs to be stopped.

That said, no I don't feel that badly for the illegal labor themselves. They know the risks and by taking the gamble they have effectively screwed how many US citizen and legal immigrants out of a job? Yes, businesses are highly culpable in this mess but then so are the illegals themselves.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They enter the country illegally and all of a sudden our laws are repressive and have regulations that separate families ?

Talk about propaganda.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:58 PM
 
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Make no mistake, I have no fondness for business who would hire illegal labor. The only reason to do so would be to undercut wages, shortcut safety regulations and not have to pay benefits. In short, businesses who hire illegals do so in order to exploit labor and make a bigger profit. It is a dirty business that needs to be stopped.

That said, no I don't feel that badly for the illegal labor themselves. They know the risks and by taking the gamble they have effectively screwed how many US citizen and legal immigrants out of a job? Yes, businesses are highly culpable in this mess but then so are the illegals themselves.
Dont feel bad for them, be proud of them for taking a stand. The businesses draw the illegals, not the other way around. I dont come to this forum much but I HOPE people -- who arent paid to do so -- arent excusing the employers.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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They enter the country illegally and all of a sudden our laws are repressive and have regulations that separate families ?

Talk about propaganda.
Who hired them? And what president eased the wa by suspending the D-B Act?
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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Actually, this is a good thing. If employers actually had to pay these people normal wages, they couldn't underbid honest contractors anymore. There would be no benefit to hiring illegals.
Thank goodness we have a president in place now who wont grease those particular skids.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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Dont feel bad for them, be proud of them for taking a stand. The businesses draw the illegals, not the other way around. I dont come to this forum much but I HOPE people -- who arent paid to do so -- arent excusing the employers.
Since they have demonstrated that they can take a stand here, they should also be able to take a stand when they are returned to their home countries.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The authoritys should investigate claims, and if true, prosecute the offending empoyers, recover the unpaid wages, and give to the illegal aliens what is left after deducting the cost of immediate deportation.
I agree except that said illegals do not deserve their wages----------if anything, all of their assets need to be seized prior to deportation.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:49 PM
 
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Dont feel bad for them, be proud of them for taking a stand. The businesses draw the illegals, not the other way around. I dont come to this forum much but I HOPE people -- who arent paid to do so -- arent excusing the employers.
Some illegals are the equivalent of modern day slaves and slavery is wrong. There is a legal minimum wage and legal overtime pay, legal taxes.

I'm fine with getting these people the legal wages the criminal employer didn't pay and sending them back home. They can use the money to get started back up where they're from, the employer should not keep the big profits he made by not hiring Americans or sponsoring legal immigrants.

Even have the the money deducted for any free health care or other debts the illegal incurred to reimburse taxpayers -- but giving the money from these crooked employers is fine with me, it doesn't cost us anything.
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