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Old 07-09-2009, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Where laws can be ignored due to political correctness
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The hard times in Pacula testify to a dramatic reversal of fortune for the estimated 12 million migrants who, according to the Pew Hispanic Center, are living illegally in the United States. Before last year, the amount of money they sent to Mexico (where 56% of illegal migrants in the USA come from, Pew says) had grown non-stop for several decades as the migrant community in the United States became larger and more prosperous.
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Immigration-control advocates such as Jack Martin of the Federation for American Immigration Reform say the decline in remittances may result in more money staying in the USA to generate tax revenue and jobs. He says the trend might also force Mexico to create jobs at home and tackle income inequality, describing the cash transfers as a "crutch that the Mexican government has leaned on for quite a while."
With USA in a recession, rural Mexico feels the pain - USATODAY.com

I'm REALLY hoping that the recession lasts for the rest of 2009 and at least until mid-2010.

But still, even when the recession ends the US economy won't bounce back immediately and jobs won't just start opening up. That'll likely take a few months.

Without the recession, I'm certain that we all can agree that Obama would've demanded for an amnesty bill to be written for him to sign.

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Old 07-10-2009, 06:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Time for Mexico to step and and quit relying on the US to keep entire towns afloat.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:27 AM
 
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Time for Mexico to tell their citizens to stop having kids they can't afford
This is why you dont see Canadian immigrants crossing our border illegally in droves because they were able to keep their birth rate in check.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:05 PM
 
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An interesting article, and I'm sure one which touches the hearts of any compassionate person. Beyond compassion, however, I'm not sure how far this thing can be 'run with'.

Mexico is not a particularly poor nation at all....it's the 'system' there that keeps people from flourishing, and doing their best. That, and the easy 'fix' which has traditionally allowed anyone 'disgruntled' enough, or frustrated enough, or restless enough, to simply 'head North' rather than fix the society at home. In small numbers, for many years, and when DONE DISCREETLY, this worked. Now, increasingly, it doesn't.

In another 'reality', if Mexico were next door to...say Chad...or Bangladesh...or Afghanistan...or Haiti...then Mexicans...even poor, rural Mexicans...would look at their 'neighbor' and feel fortunate. They'd reason that even WITH the massive corruption, inefficiency, and unfairness in their own society, they were FAR better of than the 'folks next door'...and in this, they'd be correct.

But that's not the reality...the REALITY is that Mexico, for all its relative advantages over much of the Third World, happens to be directly next door to what HAS been the 'World's leading economy', and has had a tradition of 'using' this fact for decades to postpone dealing with its OWN problems, by taking advantage of illegal immigration to a place where the system actually "works"...(or has, up until recently). So poor Mexicans look 'next door', and they feel frustration and dissatisfaction. That makes sense. That's how they SHOULD feel.

So now things are 'tightening up', and poor rural Mexicans are feeling 'pain'. That's understandable, because RICH Mexicans have, for decades, abused POOR Mexicans, and now their 'escape hatch' is getting harder to use. The US is now approaching its 'saturation point' in dealing with the problems of Mexican society.

Perhaps it's time for ALL Mexicans, rich and poor, to come to some agreement to start depending on their OWN system. If it's 'broke', maybe it needs to be fixed.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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Time for Mexico to tell their citizens to stop having kids they can't afford
That's a lot of it. Don't start having babies at age 14 and have one year after year when you cannot support them.

Also, start changing the attitude on education and keep the kids in school. You have to live a middle class lifestyle in order to have the middle class standard of living.

Mexico has a growing middle class which should serve as an example to it's impoverished on how to attain that kind of life.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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The president of Peru pointed out that one problem with Central and South America is they stress a seventh grade education, as opposed to the US, Canada, and leading European countries, which stress, at a minimum, a high school education.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The president of Peru pointed out that one problem with Central and South America is they stress a seventh grade education, as opposed to the US, Canada, and leading European countries, which stress, at a minimum, a high school education.
Which is truly sad: throughout history and across cultures the 'tipping point' between poverty and Middle Class seems to be the equivalent of an 8th grade education
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