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Vicente Fox Quesada’s father was José Luis Fox Pont, an American citizen, and his mother was Mercedes Quesada Etxaide, a Spanish immigrant from Donostia-San Sebastián. His paternal grandfather, José Luis Fox Flach, was born Joseph Louis Fuchs in Cincinnati, Ohio, son of German Catholic immigrants Louis Fuchs and Catherina Elisabetha Flach.
It was believed that Vicente Fox's grandfather was of Irish descent, but the Cincinnati Federal Census records show that he was of German descent. The Fuchs ('fox' in German) family changed the spelling of their last name to Fox after 1870.
If Fox has Mexican Indian ancestry, it would have to come from his paternal grandmother; he could also have North American Indian ancestry from his paternal grandfather’s side. Either way, it would have to be very diluted, because he doesn’t look Mestizo at all.
Actually, that isn't true. Less than 15% of the Mexican population is made up of true indigenous Meso American Indians. Nearly 80% of Mexico's people are Mestizo, which is a mixture of indigenous Meso American Indian and Spanish. Very few pure blood Spanish are immigrating to the U.S. illegally. Why should they? In Mexico, they are at the top of the food chain. Most are wealthy land/business owners. They have no need to cross the border illegally to work for pennies. They are doing quite well.
A common misconception is that Mexico doesn't differentiate between its lighter and darker skinned inhabitants. That is not true. The lighter your skin in Mexico, the better you are treated. The worst off are the indigenous Meso American Indian population who are treated like third or fourth class citizens. If you look at the Mexicans who occupy positions of power or public positions, such as television announcers, the high European influence of their DNA is clearly seen.
The majority of illegal aliens coming into the United States are Mestizo.
Actually, over 30% are full blooded Meso-indian. 60% are mestizo (half white, half indian) and the 8% are full blooded european ancestry. And the remaining 2% are other. Racism in Mexico is rampant, There is no doubt about that. But it's white Mexicans that are doing the discriminating. These people don't want to come here illegally. They don't want to leave their homeland, risk their lives ( and childrens) by walking through a desert just to have a menial job in America. These people are a product of racism. Whites exclude them In their own country!! This should not be tolerated.
Vicente Fox Quesada’s father was José Luis Fox Pont, an American citizen, and his mother was Mercedes Quesada Etxaide, a Spanish immigrant from Donostia-San Sebastián. His paternal grandfather, José Luis Fox Flach, was born Joseph Louis Fuchs in Cincinnati, Ohio, son of German Catholic immigrants Louis Fuchs and Catherina Elisabetha Flach.
It was believed that Vicente Fox's grandfather was of Irish descent, but the Cincinnati Federal Census records show that he was of German descent. The Fuchs ('fox' in German) family changed the spelling of their last name to Fox after 1870.
If Fox has Mexican Indian ancestry, it would have to come from his paternal grandmother; he could also have North American Indian ancestry from his paternal grandfather’s side. Either way, it would have to be very diluted, because he doesn’t look Mestizo at all.
Correct, Fox is a european, not a mexican. This is why he set up the rules to expell poor True Mexican citizens.
Not to sound rude, but your sooudning a latile Right wing here bro.
We escape persecution in our own lands, we are the indians of this land, here before the whites came, we have aright to be here, the gringos stole the American SW from Mexico.
Aas to seconds we keep our identity because it still mostly indian which we have fought and died forto stop the Spanish and Anglos taking away taht too
Well you just have 3 posts so probably we will not see you back here. You shoot and run (not surpised at all BTW ) still, I'd like to reply saying that if anybody stole your land, those were spaniards; those who control mexico now and abuse from indians exporting them to US like if they were prairie dogs; Then, Spaniards lost this land in a war; plain and fair, they lost; they were not strong enough; war is war. If you would like your land back, I think mexicans should act a little bit as men and declare war; let's see who win. At the end, both started from the same point; nobody gave to anyone nothing. If one is stronger than the other, in any aspect, that is totally merit of its people.
In the meantime, this is the USA like it or not. English is spoken here, laws are respected and enforced here; thanks to those little details, we are not like mexico. Learn the system, understand it, assimilate it, love it. If not, leave it and go back.
Correct, Fox is a european, not a mexican. This is why he set up the rules to expell poor True Mexican citizens.
Fox is a Mexican of European descent, just like there are many Americans or Canadians of European descent, and that doesn’t make them any less American or Canadian. Now, if he's racially prejudiced or an elitist, I really don't know; he probably is. Thinker is right, there’s a lot of racism in Mexico—throughout the ethnic spectrum—but it’s a different kind of racism than in the United States—it’s more like an unofficial caste system, based on degrees of native and European blood. Needless to say it is shameful.
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One thing I find interesting about the Hispanic invasion of America is the choice of their leaders. In many cases the people who speak for the illegal aliens from Latin America are Spanish not Indian. This is a big issue. Why do they choose Hispanic people whose ancestry goes back to Spain, instead of one of the various Indian Groups that have lived in Mexico and the rest of Latin America for generations?
Most illegal aliens from Latin America are not Spanish they are Indian. The people who are European Spanish in Mexico are lighter skinned elites in their country. They do not have to walk hundreds of miles across the desert to make it into America illegally.
No one seems to want to talk about the Spanish vs Indian aspect of illegal immigration. Why?
You're probably right. But not having the stats available; none of us are for sure. I live in Michigan; you can literally SWIM THE ONE MILE TO WINDSOR CANADA, if you wanted in that bad. Like the Rum Runners did in 1920s to row across the Detroit River, so can illegals; lots of them coming in this way are NOT Mexican...they are Asians, Pakistanis, Indians, orientals. I dont know what you're supposed to call them nowadays. but its sure as hell is NOT "Pablo, Carlos, Maria or Pedro".
That's because theyre not of spanish descent, latinos are of Native american/european(spanish/portuguese) descent. Spanish/portuguese are of european descent whose ancestry goes back to andorra. Theyre white. Latinos are native americans mixed with spanish/portuguese/italian do to the invasion of the conquistadores who "intermarried" with the native women turning them into what they are today
First of all Vicente Fox is of mexican/german descent. His mom is of mexican descent meaning her ancestry goes back to native americans. His father is of germanic descent no such thing as europeans exist in latin america
Latinos are of native american/european descent they descend from native americans not europeans spanish/portuguese. No spaniards stole mexico's land ,they colonized it for 300+yrs until they were finally kicked out
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Reason: 3 posts in a row merged
According to wikipedia, Vicente Fox's great grandfather was an American from Cleveland and that he was of German and perhaps also Irish ancestry. The article also said that "Fox" was Americanized from "Fuchs" which is his granddaddy's original name.
I've always suspected Vicente wasn't completely Mexican since Fox is not a very Spanish name to me.
According to wikipedia, Vicente Fox's great grandfather was an American from Cleveland and that he was of German and perhaps also Irish ancestry. The article also said that "Fox" was Americanized from "Fuchs" which is his granddaddy's original name.
I've always suspected Vicente wasn't completely Mexican since Fox is not a very Spanish name to me.
A friend of mine; is was born/raised in Mexico along with both of his parents although all 4 of his grands came from Eastern Europe/Russia.
Needless to say; this gentleman considers himself both 'Mexican' and 'Hispanic'-------despite having zero indigenous blood.
Another example would be Alberto Fujimori; the former president of Peru, he is of 100% Japanese lineage------yet, under US law, the man would be also Hispanic.
As for Vicente Fox's mother; Quezeda, she was a Basque Spaniard, born in Spain.
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) still, I'd like to reply saying that if anybody stole your land, those were spaniards; those who control mexico now and abuse from indians exporting them to US like if they were prairie dogs; Then, Spaniards lost this land in a war; plain and fair, they lost; they were not strong enough; war is war. If you would like your land back, I think mexicans should act a little bit as men and declare war; let's see who win. At the end, both started from the same point; nobody gave to anyone nothing. If one is stronger than the other, in any aspect, that is totally merit of its people.
