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Old 11-11-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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It does make a difference whom we are supporting. Our tax dollars should go towards our own citizens, not illegal aliens.

There are certain rights that a citizen is bestowed by birth on our soil and rightly so. Sorry, you don't agree. Thinking that foreigners should have the same rights is just plain bizzarre. No where in the world will you find this kind of thinking acceptable or reasonable.

The presence of illegal aliens in our country is affecting you negatively in many ways. You just choose to stick your head in the sand and remain in denial because you are a sympathizer. I don't know if by you surname you are actually Hispanic but if so, that would pretty much explain your stance.

I wasn't questioning your citizenship per se. I just couldn't remember from your prior posts whether you had stated you were or were not a citizen. Thanks for clarifying that. What I meant that I find it disgusting for a citizen to defend, aid and abet illegal aliens.

The only thing that illegal aliens are entitled to is deportation. They don't deserve the opportunity to do anything in this country other than leaving.
This was one of the most coherent posts you've posted yet.

Although, me being Hispanic or not being Hispanic does not explain my stance. You assume that I'm supposed to go along with the beliefs and actions of my "kind", as if I am only capable of following a crowd as opposed to thinking for myself.

You can say I'm disgusting all you want, but I'm not aiding and abetting anybody.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:09 PM
 
Location: southern california
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probably not. if they do they wont get a thank you note from BP, BP already knows they are at home depot but they look and look and look and somehow just cant find them.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:09 PM
 
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What's irrational about it? What do you do when you find out someone has been tapping your bank account? Run away?

No you fight. What's irrational is to let your heart run your brain. We can't save the World but we can save our social service network from people it's not meant to support. We can also save our schools and our ER access, maybe even cut down on acccidents committed by people who aren't supposed to be here.
What's irrational is that it doesn't take account the reality of the situation. Provisions and actual wording of the bill, for this particular example. Basically, the fighting is much like Don Quixote fighting off windmills.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:17 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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ok and if the cops ask for id to somebody with no probable cause [and he in fact is a citizen], just simply to racially profile, we could sue the pants out of all police dept for practicing these prejudiced policys!
Loitering is probable cause so don't get your la raza lawyer yet. It has been for a long time; long before the illegal alien invasion; no profiling necessary.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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They dont arrest all the white pan handlers in el paso, why should you arrest these folks, what if their just chilling with 30 of their closest friends!
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:43 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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They dont arrest all the white pan handlers in el paso, why should you arrest these folks, what if their just chilling with 30 of their closest friends!
What if they're not?
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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What's irrational is that it doesn't take account the reality of the situation. Provisions and actual wording of the bill, for this particular example. Basically, the fighting is much like Don Quixote fighting off windmills.

Back to the topic:

If a Contracter has to produce a license upon request why wouldn't the people working on the project have to produce documents showing they have a legal right to be working on that project? We aren't suggesting two sets of laws are we, one for Illegal law breakers and one for tax paying Americans?
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:11 AM
 
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Back to the topic:

If a Contracter has to produce a license upon request why wouldn't the people working on the project have to produce documents showing they have a legal right to be working on that project? We aren't suggesting two sets of laws are we, one for Illegal law breakers and one for tax paying Americans?
The quotation was in reference to your previous statement, thus now taken out of context.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The quotation was in reference to your previous statement, thus now taken out of context.
We digressed to the point of windmills, let's stay on topic.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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We digressed to the point of windmills, let's stay on topic.
No, I made a point that you had an irrational fear. It was on topic. The windmills serve as a metaphor. Keep up.
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