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Old 12-10-2009, 08:30 AM
 
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I've used all the different words depending on my mood. Let's get something straight here:

illegal alien = illegal immigrant = undocumented immigrant = undocumented alien.

permanent resident = resident alien

It makes absolutely no difference, and neither does the fact that any person chooses to use one word over another. If you don't like it, go complain to the thesaurus people and maybe they'll start complaining to the dictionary people to start changing the definitions of the words to appease you, but meanwhile please quit creating a stir about it.
An illegal alien is an illegal alien, period. That is the legal term for them and your particular mood about it changes nothing.

Why don't you start calling bank robbers "unathorized withdrawers" or burglers "uninvited guests" or other such nonsense then?
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yeah, I mean nobody is stopping you from arguing about something that doesn't matter. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
The verbage is important--------what better way to rally the American people against unauthorized people here in the USA by calling them illegal aliens? I have no issue with with 'branding' lawbreakers as criminals.
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Nobody is stopping you from using the words you want to use, it's all the same damn thing.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:34 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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much ado about nothing.
im more interested in the decision, than the interchangeable terminology.
i figured most intelligent people would.

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Who wants to bet “undocumented” will later be replaced by something even more PC?



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Justice Sotomayor uses "undocumented" in decision | Immigration Chronicles | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:35 PM
 
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The verbage is important--------what better way to rally the American people against unauthorized people here in the USA by calling them illegal aliens? I have no issue with with 'branding' lawbreakers as criminals.

We indeed have freedom of speech, we choose whatever we want to say in whatever language we choose, education has something to do with our choice of words, and Justice Sotomayor over-educated as she is you would expect elegant language, as she clearly does.....
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:49 PM
 
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much ado about nothing.
im more interested in the decision, than the interchangeable terminology.
i figured most intelligent people would.
I would hold a SCJ to a higher standard than that. Correct terminology usage is also important in their decisions.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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We indeed have freedom of speech, we choose whatever we want to say in whatever language we choose, education has something to do with our choice of words, and Justice Sotomayor over-educated as she is you would expect elegant language, as she clearly does.....
SCJ's are held to a higher standard than you or I as well they should be. I wouldn't call using the incorrect word of "undocumented" to describe illegal aliens is being elegant on her part.

Anyone who calls an illegal alien and "undocument immigrant" is showing their lack of knowledge of the correct term and/or disrespect for the correct term.

How in the world can she or anyone else be "over educated"?
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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i think he is using the historical, east coast term for hispanics.
"Spanish" doesnt mean from spain, but rather those who speak/spoke spanish.
like spanish harlem, that wasnt spain spanish, it was spanish speaking harlem.

its a regional term. i think he is from that part of the country. its another interchangeable word.

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Why are you so obsessed with “Spanish-Americans?” I didn’t realize Spain is the country of origin for the majority of illegal aliens. Wow! Are they swimming across the Atlantic, hijacking planes, or are they stowaways? That’s quite a feat. I thought the majority of illegals are Mexican, or from other countries SOB. Who knew? I guess since the majority of U.S. citizens speak English, we are not Americans, we are British.

In any case, a Supreme Court Justice should be impartial. She certainly shouldn’t change legal terminology to benefit foreign invaders, the majority whom share her language or ethnicity. Should we applaud her for future decisions based solely on ethnic solidarity? What would you think of Clarence Thomas if he changed the terminology in his written decisions to benefit black criminals?

I expect the selection process to be based on qualifications, not race or ethnicity. Of course, an ethnocentric would think otherwise.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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ill put my money on sotomayors knowledge over yours any day. shoot even mine!
she is on the bench after all.

again, this is much ado about nothing.
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SCJ's are held to a higher standard than you or I as well they should be. I wouldn't call using the incorrect word of "undocumented" to describe illegal aliens is being elegant on her part.

Anyone who calls an illegal alien and "undocument immigrant" is showing their lack of knowledge of the correct term and/or disrespect for the correct term.

How in the world can she or anyone else be "over educated"?
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:08 PM
 
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<<Undocumented is very descriptive and directly related to immigrant status.>>

Undocumented is not a very descriptive word for illegal aliens. Many of them have a plethora of documents, albeit in different names.
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