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Old 03-03-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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March 2, 2010
Josh Boatwright
Citizen-Times.com

Deputies found Cruz Mario Carnacion, 37, and Jose Luis Trejo-Yanez in possession of more than 500 7-inch spikes, which weigh about a half-pound each and can be sold for scrap.

Davis called the pair's actions “incredibly selfish,” saying the missing spikes could have caused a train to derail.

“We've never heard of it, we've never seen it where people are actually pulling up railroad spikes,” he said. “This act of theft could have easily had catastrophic consequences had a train derailed in this area.”

The pair pulled most of the spikes directly from the railroad ties, though some were lying loose along the tracks, Davis said.

Deputies immediately called officials with Norfolk Southern to report the theft and the possible threat to the integrity of the tracks, he said.

Norfolk Southern Public Relations Manager Robin Chapman said he could not comment on the condition of the tracks.

Chapman said thieves often walk tracks to collect loose railroad spikes to sell to scrap metal yards.

“One individual spike isn't worth that much scrap value, but you collect a quantity of them,” he said.

Carnacion and Trejo-Yanez were charged with felony conspiracy to damage railroad property, willful injury to railroad property and trespassing on railroad property.

The men did not give a permanent address and Henderson County's immigration program determined they had entered the United States illegally, Davis said.

They were each placed under a $25,000 bond and ordered held on Immigration and Customs Enforcement detainers pending deportation proceedings.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:14 PM
 
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This to me equates as an act of sabotage against America. Others have used planes, now it is our trains. Derailment could have been catastrophic if it hasn't happened already.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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This to me equates as an act of sabotage against America. Others have used planes, now it is our trains. Derailment could have been catastrophic if it hasn't happened already.
It didn't just happen in North Carolina either.
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Old 03-04-2010, 05:42 AM
 
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This to me equates as an act of sabotage against America. Others have used planes, now it is our trains. Derailment could have been catastrophic if it hasn't happened already.
It has, I believe it was in the midwest.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:11 AM
 
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It has, I believe it was in the midwest.
Shakes head....
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Just doing a job most Americans won't do. Will the harassment of honest hard working illegals never end?
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:13 PM
 
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This is nothing new,a couple of years back they caught a several Illegal aliens stealing manhole covers around L.A..I would have hated to be the person driving down that street.Clarks seems to omit a key point Americans that steal scrap metal are breaking the law,Illegal aliens that steal scrap shouldn't even be here regardless of race and if the laws were enforced they wouldn"t be here.Maybe it's just one of those "Jobs Americans won't do"(sarcasm)
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:35 AM
 
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This is nothing new,a couple of years back they caught a several Illegal aliens stealing manhole covers around L.A..I would have hated to be the person driving down that street.Clarks seems to omit a key point Americans that steal scrap metal are breaking the law,Illegal aliens that steal scrap shouldn't even be here regardless of race and if the laws were enforced they wouldn"t be here.Maybe it's just one of those "Jobs Americans won't do"(sarcasm)
For all the screams of pro-illegals do about racism, they are always the one to bring it up first. I have yet to read a racist statement from any anti-illegal alien proponent in here.

Some say about this article, oh, it was nothing, yeah, it was nothing that a couple of terrorists took flying lessons and slammed planes into our financial buildings and Pentagon, it was nothing that they killed thousands of Americans. We need secure borders to keep scum like those in the article out of America so we can deal with our own in this Nation. Illegal Aliens deter us from focusing on what is needed in this country for added security. An extremely costly nuisance. "Go home. Leave our country to us to fix without you messing it up even further."
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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How can anyone possibly not consider this egregious behavior a threat to our country? Are these criminals so stupid not to realize the ramifications of removing spikes from railroad tracks? C’mon, they HAD to know they could cause a derailment.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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March 2, 2010
Josh Boatwright
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Deputies found Cruz Mario Carnacion, 37, and Jose Luis Trejo-Yanez in possession of more than 500 7-inch spikes, which weigh about a half-pound each and can be sold for scrap.

Davis called the pair's actions “incredibly selfish,” saying the missing spikes could have caused a train to derail.

“We've never heard of it, we've never seen it where people are actually pulling up railroad spikes,” he said. “This act of theft could have easily had catastrophic consequences had a train derailed in this area.”

The pair pulled most of the spikes directly from the railroad ties, though some were lying loose along the tracks, Davis said.

Deputies immediately called officials with Norfolk Southern to report the theft and the possible threat to the integrity of the tracks, he said.

Norfolk Southern Public Relations Manager Robin Chapman said he could not comment on the condition of the tracks.

Chapman said thieves often walk tracks to collect loose railroad spikes to sell to scrap metal yards.

“One individual spike isn't worth that much scrap value, but you collect a quantity of them,” he said.

Carnacion and Trejo-Yanez were charged with felony conspiracy to damage railroad property, willful injury to railroad property and trespassing on railroad property.

The men did not give a permanent address and Henderson County's immigration program determined they had entered the United States illegally, Davis said.

They were each placed under a $25,000 bond and ordered held on Immigration and Customs Enforcement detainers pending deportation proceedings.
They are criminals and deserve to be treated as such, it could have been pure idiocy or an act with real intent to cause harm. At the same time each immigrant has his, sometimes tragic, personal story.
I do not have angelic views at all, am very scared when reading about "black tar" trafficking or acts such as the one mentioned here, but let's keep in mind immigrants are comprised of good and bad people...
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