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04-01-2010, 11:29 AM
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Location: Houston
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They will have to rule in favor of them. What he did was wrong. You do not need a SSN. Foreigners who marry in Las Vegas don't have one. A couple I know did not have one, either. Texas does not require a SSN.
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04-01-2010, 11:45 AM
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Location: South Bay Native
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Originally Posted by XodoX
They will have to rule in favor of them. What he did was wrong. You do not need a SSN. Foreigners who marry in Las Vegas don't have one. A couple I know did not have one, either. Texas does not require a SSN.
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Maybe you missed the part that this didn't happen in Nevada. Or in Texas. This was in Michigan.
Also, there was an affidavit to complete and sign for those who do not have a SSN. The parties of the lawsuit failed to complete them. There was nothing in the article stating that one HAD to have a SSN.
The fact that you are referring to Mary Hollinrake as a "he" further gives me the conclusion that you did not even bother to actually read the article that this thread is about. |
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04-01-2010, 11:47 AM
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Location: Bike to Surf!
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Is the county clerk an immigration enforcement official? No. Must you have a US SSN to get married? No.
She should operate within her job discription. Its this sort of expansion of government power by meglomaniacal little turds that reminds me of communist China. Pretty soon you'll have to provide a birth certificate to buy groceries.
Marriage to a US citizen does NOT confer legal status on illegal aliens, so there is no reason that having no legal status in the US should not be an acceptable response when applying for a marriage liscense. This is unnecessary government intrusion into people's lives, and the clerk is misinterpreting the law.
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04-01-2010, 11:53 AM
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Location: southwest TN
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Originally Posted by sponger42
Is the county clerk an immigration enforcement official? No. Must you have a US SSN to get married? No.
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The statute where this is true in all 50 states? How about the statute that this is the case in Michigan? Where did you get your "facts"?
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Originally Posted by sponger42
She should operate within her job discription.
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And you have seen her job dEscription? You know that not following the laws of Michigan is part of it? So long as she was following the rules of her job as she knows them and following the laws of the State of michigan, then she IS doing her job.
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Originally Posted by sponger42
Its this sort of expansion of government power by meglomaniacal little turds that reminds me of communist China. Pretty soon you'll have to provide a birth certificate to buy groceries.
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Actually it's turds who don't know what they are tlaking about yet spout off about those things that makes me want to send THEM to China.
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Originally Posted by sponger42
Marriage to a US citizen does NOT confer legal status on illegal aliens, so there is no reason that having no legal status in the US should not be an acceptable response when applying for a marriage liscense. This is unnecessary government intrusion into people's lives, and the clerk is misinterpreting the law.
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It is not the clerk's job to interpret the law. It is the job of the town/city's legal representatives to do that and to set down rules as to how the laws are to followed.
Last edited by NY Annie; 04-01-2010 at 12:11 PM..
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04-01-2010, 11:57 AM
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Wow....truly pathetic.
I'm sure no end of ACLU and other mutant trash will support expanded "rights" for illegal immigrants and then sue in US courts (where illegal immigrants have NO rights) to gain expanded "benefits" that illegal immigrants are NOT entitled to....
....amazing....
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04-01-2010, 12:00 PM
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Location: South Bay Native
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The only right an illegal alien should have in our courts is the right to be deported, after they have served their sentence.
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04-01-2010, 12:01 PM
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Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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It's the kool-aid, man, it's the kool-aid...
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04-01-2010, 12:56 PM
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Location: Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XodoX
They will have to rule in favor of them. What he did was wrong. You do not need a SSN. Foreigners who marry in Las Vegas don't have one. A couple I know did not have one, either. Texas does not require a SSN.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sponger42
Is the county clerk an immigration enforcement official? No. Must you have a US SSN to get married? No.
She should operate within her job discription. Its this sort of expansion of government power by meglomaniacal little turds that reminds me of communist China. Pretty soon you'll have to provide a birth certificate to buy groceries.
Marriage to a US citizen does NOT confer legal status on illegal aliens, so there is no reason that having no legal status in the US should not be an acceptable response when applying for a marriage liscense. This is unnecessary government intrusion into people's lives, and the clerk is misinterpreting the law.
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According to federal law, states “shall” request a SSN. This is not enacted to infringe upon the rights of the applicants; rather, to have a method to identify those required by law to pay child support. Likewise, all employers are now required to submit the SSN of new hires to their respective states to assist in locating child support absconders. If Michigan chooses to require this info, they are well within their right to do so. Why should illegal aliens be exempt, while legal residents and citizens are not, barring specified exemptions? |
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04-01-2010, 12:57 PM
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Location: Harrisonburg, VA
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Yeah...about that....I believe only CITIZENS OF THE US should be able to FILE LAWSUITS IN THE US...makes sense right? If I went over to Mexico and tried to sue someone ..they would probably laugh me right out the door.
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04-01-2010, 01:00 PM
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Location: San Diego
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Sounds like these dummies should have just went to Vegas. Instead it appears they are challenging the laws of a Nation that one doesn't belong to.
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