Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:41 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
2,205 posts, read 2,536,422 times
Reputation: 453

Advertisements

Need I say more?

Quote:
"This is an anchor-baby-for-profit concept," Miller said in a follow-up phone interview. "It's not a negative. It's just a fact."
Miller, whose district includes Chino and Chino Hills, said ending the practice doesn't require a constitutional amendment.

Section 5 of the 14th Amendment "gives Congress the right to delegate how the amendments are applied. All Congress has to do is delegate that it's not to be applied in this fashion."
Brea congressman: end birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants - Redlands Daily Facts
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:51 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,624,265 times
Reputation: 18521
This is a day late and a dollar short.


Better late than never.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
3,854 posts, read 4,835,857 times
Reputation: 960
14th amendent section 1-5

Text
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

As I read section 5 it is that Congress can write laws to implement, protect, or enforce stated rights, but not to alter.

Last edited by 1751texan; 04-16-2010 at 12:09 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
2,205 posts, read 2,536,422 times
Reputation: 453
Quote:
Originally Posted by bentbow View Post
this is a day late and a dollar short.


Better late than never.
absolutely!!!!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 12:02 PM
 
Location: square thing with a roof
894 posts, read 1,127,257 times
Reputation: 773
It's about time!!!

From the looks of it, the apologists are already trying to spin our laws to read that our constitution is supposed to include illegal fence-hoppers and their offspring as AMERICANS.

Boo-hoo. Get over it. Eventually the laws always end up being applied the way they were INTENDED. Yeah, our rotten Government closed the LOOP HOLES that the fence-jumpers have been perverting.

Guess that means they can whine and complain themselves all the way back to their homeland and take their illegal broods with them. Let their own Govt. support their "gimme gimme all for free" attitudes!

This is a GREAT day for America!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
21,144 posts, read 42,134,028 times
Reputation: 3861
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1751texan View Post
Text“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Remember; 1751texan; that the US born children of foreign diplomats are specifically excluded from birthright citizenship.........so, it is just a matter of WHEN, not 'if', when Anchor Babies will be considered 'illegal aliens' under the eyes of the law.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
3,854 posts, read 4,835,857 times
Reputation: 960
Quote:
Originally Posted by {geek} View Post
It's about time!!!

From the looks of it, the apologists are already trying to spin our laws to read that our constitution is supposed to include illegal fence-hoppers and their offspring as AMERICANS.

Boo-hoo. Get over it. Eventually the laws always end up being applied the way they were INTENDED. Yeah, our rotten Government closed the LOOP HOLES that the fence-jumpers have been perverting.

Guess that means they can whine and complain themselves all the way back to their homeland and take their illegal broods with them. Let their own Govt. support their "gimme gimme all for free" attitudes!

This is a GREAT day for America!!!
Its always a great day for America whether we have fence-hoppers or not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
2,205 posts, read 2,536,422 times
Reputation: 453
I hope this is completed in an expedient manner as I am sure many will ramp up their reproductive practices as well as book to the hilt "birthright tours".

Last edited by getout; 04-16-2010 at 12:25 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
21,144 posts, read 42,134,028 times
Reputation: 3861
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1751texan View Post
Its always a great day for America whether we have fence-hoppers or not.
WRONG! It is NOT good for the USA to have a bunch of insolent illegal alien LOSERS here............they need to be punished and have their assets seized along with a minimum, 3 year ban on reentry.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
3,854 posts, read 4,835,857 times
Reputation: 960
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaBear View Post
Remember; 1751texan; that the US born children of foreign diplomats are specifically excluded from birthright citizenship.........so, it is just a matter of WHEN, not 'if', when Anchor Babies will be considered 'illegal aliens' under the eyes of the law.
AZ you dont agree with you on the diplomat issue. And if AZ, the people want and change the Constitution, that is the Law of the Land.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top