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Old 05-20-2010, 07:50 PM
 
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So why is the anti immigration movement still whining and crying? 100% increase in 10 years is no small feat.


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Old 05-20-2010, 08:06 PM
 
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Who's anti-immigrant?
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So why is the anti immigration movement still whining and crying? 100% increase in 10 years is no small feat.

IT'S A START
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:27 PM
 
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Thank goodness. Hopefully there will no illegals here soon.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:30 PM
 
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Why are they ripping on Obama, when he has twice as many deportations Bush had in his second year?
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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So why is the anti immigration movement still whining and crying? 100% increase in 10 years is no small feat.
Could you kindly show us a graph of the estimated increase in the total amount of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. from 2000-present? That would give us a much better idea of WHY there has been an increase in deportations during the past 10 years. Otherwise, your graph means nothing.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Why are they ripping on Obama, when he has twice as many deportations Bush had in his second year?
Overheard in the current marxist regime, "just make sure that we deport a few more than jorge bush did so we can say that the border in now secure".
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:22 PM
 
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Could you kindly show us a graph of the estimated increase in the total amount of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. from 2000-present? That would give us a much better idea of WHY there has been an increase in deportations during the past 10 years. Otherwise, your graph means nothing.

OP must be busy searching....
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:28 PM
 
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Default The ignorance on this forum is astounding

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Could you kindly show us a graph of the estimated increase in the total amount of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. from 2000-present? That would give us a much better idea of WHY there has been an increase in deportations during the past 10 years. Otherwise, your graph means nothing.

Illegal immigrant numbers plunge - Los Angeles Times

http://www.examiner.com/x-9270-LA-Border-and-Immigration-Examiner~y2009m5d20-Double-digit-decrease-on-illegal-immigration

A Shifting Tide: Recent Trends in the Illegal Immigrant Population | Center for Immigration Studies
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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From the last link you posted:

Findings:

"While migration patterns have fundamentally changed, it must be remembered that the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants have not left the country, and tens of thousands of new illegal immigrants continue to settle in the country each year."

"While the decline began before unemployment among illegal immigrants rose, unemployment among illegal immigrants has increased dramatically and must now be playing a significant role in reducing their numbers."

"There is evidence that the illegal population rose in the summer of 2007, while Congress was considering legalizing illegal immigrants. When that legislation failed to pass, the illegal population quickly began a dramatic fall."

"There is no way to know if the current trend will continue. Given President Obama’s stated desire to legalize illegal immigrants and his backing away from enforcement efforts, it seems likely that when the economy recovers, the illegal population will resume its growth."

"Future enforcement efforts as well as the state of the economy will likely determine if the current trend continues. President Obama has repeatedly stated his strong desire to legalize those in the country illegally and it is unclear to what extent the new administration will enforce immigration laws. Also the future direction of the economy, which is likely to play a very significant role in migration trends, is another unknown factor. The relative importance of increased enforcement versus the economy is difficult to determine. What is clear is that a very long-standing migration pattern has reversed. But once the economy recovers and if enforcement is reduced, which seems likely, the illegal population will almost certainly resume it growth."

"The Total Illegal Population. Although a number of institutions and organizations have tried to estimate the size of the illegal population, there is still some uncertainty about its actual size."

"Undercount of Illegal Immigrants. While it is clear that a large share of illegal aliens are included in Census Bureau surveys, there is always the question of those who are missed. Although DHS, as well as most researchers, assume an undercount of roughly 10 percent for illegal immigrants in Census Bureau data, there is debate about the size of this undercount.30 In the environment of stepped up enforcement that characterized much of 2007 and 2008, it is possible that the undercount might rise as a larger share of illegal immigrants become reluctant to answer a government survey. This in turn could create the illusion that the illegal population is falling when in fact the population remains unchanged."

"Finally, there is also no way to know if this trend will continue. President Obama has repeatedly indicated his deep commitment to legalizing those in the country illegally. Pronouncements of this kind can have an impact. When Congress was considering legalization for illegal immigrants in the summer of 2007, there is evidence that the illegal population grew. Even debating amnesty seems to have consequences for migration trends. Recent public announcements by the administration and several of its actions, including delaying the E-verify requirement for federal contractors, reducing the Border Patrol’s access to some federal lands, and the release of illegal immigrants detained in worksite enforcement actions all indicate that the new president is likely to reduce enforcement efforts. Moreover, the future trend of the economy is unknown. Therefore, we simply do not know if the current decline in the illegal population will continue. It seems very likely, however, that if the economy recovers and enforcement weakens further, the number of illegal immigrants will begin to grown again."
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