Why did they change the Arizona law and remove the words "soley"and "race" (illegals, Mexicans)

[minesbroken]

Originally Posted by Sunshadow

The amendments to the "original law" were done to make sure that the language could not be misconstrued by bigots like you from misinterpreting the fact that the law expressly forbade "racial profiling."

The original law is based on, and in fact mirrors, the federal law it was intended to enforce. That federal law has been on the books for years, and has withstood numerous legal challenges, and is, in fact, a much tougher law than SB1070.

You need to educate yourself as to the facts:

Read for yourself: The full text of Arizona's controversial illegal immigrant law | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

Ariz. immigration law mirrors federal version but with state enforcement - Water Cooler - Washington Times

Arizona is right to defend against foreign invasion

Stop being such a whiney, loser crybaby.

ROFL
I guess my answer wasn't far off after all was it

[Mrbiggleswurth]

Originally Posted by Sunshadow

The amendments to the "original law" were done to make sure that the language could not be misconstrued by bigots like you from misinterpreting the fact that the law expressly forbade "racial profiling."

Wrong, again. The original law stated that race can not be "solely" used as probable cause. Look up the definition of solely. You are the one that supports racial profiling, and I'm the bigot?? Rich.

The original law is based on, and in fact mirrors, the federal law it was intended to enforce. That federal law has been on the books for years, and has withstood numerous legal challenges, and is, in fact, a much tougher law than SB1070.

You need to educate yourself as to the facts:

Read for yourself: The full text of Arizona's controversial illegal immigrant law | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

Ariz. immigration law mirrors federal version but with state enforcement - Water Cooler - Washington Times

Arizona is right to defend against foreign invasion

Stop being such a whiney, loser crybaby.

Show me the wording of the federal law that allows race to be used as one factor for probable cause. Didn't think so. Can't you think of any other conservative rules to use besides ad hominem attacks?

[shadowne]

Originally Posted by Mrbiggleswurth

Wrong, again. The original law stated that race can not be "solely" used as probable cause. Look up the definition of solely. You are the one that supports racial profiling, and I'm the bigot?? Rich.

Show me the wording of the federal law that allows race to be used as one factor for probable cause. Didn't think so. Can't you think of any other conservative rules to use besides ad hominem attacks?

It appears you are not comprehending this statement and instead are attacking those who are trying to explain. RICH, indeed.

[minesbroken]

Originally Posted by Mrbiggleswurth

Wrong, again. The original law stated that race can not be "solely" used as probable cause. Look up the definition of solely. You are the one that supports racial profiling, and I'm the bigot?? Rich.

Show me the wording of the federal law that allows race to be used as one factor for probable cause. Didn't think so. Can't you think of any other conservative rules to use besides ad hominem attacks?

what would you consider "probably cause"?
isn't it obvious that most of the Illegal Immigrants in Arizona are going to be one certain race?
if you don't think race is a factor (race can be considered without being a racist by the way)
then you don't live in the real world.
most Illegal Immigrants in Arizona wont be White, Black, Asian, Indian, Middle eastern...so you can pretty much rule them out right away... is that racist? or just common sense?
if I say that most professional hockey players are White...is that racist or fact?
Most professional basketball players are black... racist or fact?
wake up man.
its not a perfect world and it never will be.
they aren't rounding up Hispanic people and checking them one by one
its not a violation of anyone s rights to ask for ID.
the law said they need a reason other than race to ask you for your ID or whatever
but truth is if your not Hispanic they probably wont bother.
that's not racism
it's an unfortunate byproduct of the fact that most illegal immigrants are mexican.

[Sunshadow]

Originally Posted by minesbroken

ROFL
I guess my answer wasn't far off after all was it

No, it wasn't...in fact, it was right on, just worded a little differently.

[Mrbiggleswurth]

Originally Posted by shadowne

It appears you are not comprehending this statement and instead are attacking those who are trying to explain. RICH, indeed.

If race cannot be the sole determining factor, that means it can be factor, so long as there are other factors. Unbelievable. Is English your first language?

[Sunshadow]

Originally Posted by Mrbiggleswurth

Wrong, again. The original law stated that race can not be "solely" used as probable cause. Look up the definition of solely. You are the one that supports racial profiling, and I'm the bigot?? Rich.

Show me the wording of the federal law that allows race to be used as one factor for probable cause. Didn't think so. Can't you think of any other conservative rules to use besides ad hominem attacks?

Show me where I said that the federal law allows for racial profiling.

If you're talking like an idiot, and I call you an idiot, is that an ad hominim ( sic ) attack....or merely a statement of fact?

You seem to be the typical leftist who doesn't know when to quit when he's getting his ass kicked....metaphorically speaking, of course.

[Sunshadow]

Originally Posted by Mrbiggleswurth

If race cannot be the sole determining factor, that means it can be factor, so long as there are other factors. Unbelievable. Is English your first language?

It's obvious that word comprehension is not your strong point.........in fact, it doesn't look like you even have any strong points. Unless you count duuuuuhh!

[Mrbiggleswurth]

Originally Posted by Sunshadow

Show me where I said that the federal law allows for racial profiling.

If you're talking like an idiot, and I call you an idiot, is that an ad hominim ( sic ) attack....or merely a statement of fact?

You seem to be the typical leftist who doesn't know when to quit when he's getting his ass kicked....metaphorically speaking, of course.

You stated that the original version mirrored federal law. The original version allowed for race to be used as a criteria, so as long as it was not the sole factor. Show me the federal law that allows race to be used as a factor. You can't, you fail again, now resort to conservative rule #1 and #2. I'm surprised you didn't call me a Communist or Terrorist. You are predictable for the most part however.

[minesbroken]

Originally Posted by Mrbiggleswurth

If race cannot be the sole determining factor, that means it can be factor, so long as there are other factors. Unbelievable. Is English your first language?

Of course race is one factor...are you living in fantasy land?
how many Asian Mexicans do you know?
see many Black guys hopping over the fence into Arizona?
How about white guys?
of course its a factor...
they just don't want to be baited into a racial argument
taking note of someones ethnicity is not racism
you obviously cant separate the two
that's why they changed the name of the stupid law
because people like you will always try to pull out the race card.
you have an astute knack for the obvious but fail to grasp the reality
that it's not a perfect world where one decision can be made and everyone will be happy with it and take it at face value.
yet somehow despite your antics and opinions
the majority ruled that this is what they wanted
making your opinion much like your argument
a moot point.