State releasing list of firearm owners?

[linicx]

It is lovely idea but the suggestion is not very practical. Kids go to school and they want to play with friends. I was raised with guns, I like most guns and I am not opposed to cc, either. What I am opposed to is unsecured guns where children can access them and I will tell you why.

This was a story in local paper (not Illinois). A foster family had children and they took in a six-year old boy. The father was an avid hunter who was teaching his son to hunt. His unsecured guns were kept in the barn with the ammo. Their 14-year old son was mad because the six-year old would not stop bothering him. He got the gun, loaded it and killed the foster child.

The natural children were removed premanently from their parents. The foster home was dismantled and the parents were arested. The spokeswoman from the DCFS stated "there is no reason to take a gun from a hunter." I am quite sure the parents of the dead child brought a mega-million dollar suit against the state. They should have.

My position is there is no reason to place a troubled foster child in a home where guns and ammunition are not secured. DCFS screwed up big time and since then there has been some big changes in the laws.

You can teach a child to avoid matches and knives and chemicals. What you cannot do is protect your child from irresponsible adults. An unloaded gun cannot fire; it requires ammunition. At the very least the father should have put the ammo under his supervision.

Originally Posted by Slinkycat

Most homes have unsecured knives, matches, poisonous chemicals. Just keep your children in your own house, under your beady eye (and possibly under lock and key) and you never have to worry.

[ofcjim40]

^^^ I completely agree with your point of being responsible. One of the most damaging things to gun rights are gun owners who act in a careless, reckless or negligent manner. For me, I all carry a gun off duty, I also always have a gun within easy reach in the house when I am home. But when I'm not home, other than the gun I carry, ALL my guns are locked in a very secure safe that's bolted to the wall studs that only me and my wife have the combo to. If I have company over that involves small children, the safe is double checked it's locked and the door to the room is locked. Reckless or cavalier firearm safety is one thing that disgusts me.

[linicx]

^^^^ Thank you. My father had the same policy. His guns were unloaded, checked, cleaned and cased after every use and stored behind a locked door. All the ammo was locked in a steel WWII ammo case behind the locked door. Guess where the keys were? With him! He liked Skeet, but the real reason he had guns was to teach his kids to respect them, and to understand the power we had over life and death when we held one. I had no problem with guns in my house when my child's life was in danger, but I never forgot my father's words. "When you kill a person you live with it until you die." The person bothering my daughter left the state compliments of the judge and I've not had a reason to own a gun since. .

You cannot stop crazy people, but you can be aware of your surroundings which is why I take my dog with me on outings. He thinks he's a bully and so do most strangers. I like it that way.

[tonythetuna]

Thank you Peoria!

"A Peoria County judge granted a temporary restraining order to prevent release of a list of Firearm Owner Identification card holders, in a case brought by four members of the association."

Ill. judge rules that FOID card holder list should stay secret

Keep the fight going everyone!

And lets recall Lisa Madigan.

[linicx]

I just read a piece today that said the FOIC ID is still in legislation and not going anywhere very fast. It won't pass the "judge" test.