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Old 03-24-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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I agree, although I can see why in the case of East St. Louis and a few other places like Camden, Flint or Detroit things have gotten so much out of control they might consider giving those up and turn them into a forest or something.
There are only a few truly booming cities in the US, I can only think of New York, Boston and San Francisco at the moment. That means East St. Louis woulld never recover. I wonder why the people still living there don't just move away.
Most of the cities in Texas, Seattle and Los Angeles are booming too.

I wouldn't say Boston is booming. It has expensive real estate and is a desirable place to live, but it's job growth is about the same as it has been for 15 years, aside from a massive dip in 2008.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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You can bull doze it over and start fresh. Build some office parks.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:23 PM
 
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Give the land over to Missouri and let Saint Louis, MO deal with it
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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Once the ghetto takes over an area there really is no bringing it back. That is the truth.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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Once the ghetto takes over an area there really is no bringing it back. That is the truth.
Try buying a brownstone in Harlem these days for less than a million dollars. If you find one, I guarantee it'll need a gut rehab.
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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Default It might be interesting to examine some of the characteristics that these areas have in common and differences...

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Try buying a brownstone in Harlem these days for less than a million dollars. If you find one, I guarantee it'll need a gut rehab.
Harlem is not just well connected to the more affluent parts of NY by transit links, it is literally part of same municipal government structure.

Of course one could argue that the various political affiliations / alignments and transit connections that help Harlem seem absent / utterly ineffective in revitalizing Chicago's Austin neighborhood..
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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Ask the state of Missouri to acquire East St. Louis by "eminent domain". I doubt that Illinois would put up a fight.
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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Harlem is not just well connected to the more affluent parts of NY by transit links, it is literally part of same municipal government structure.

Of course one could argue that the various political affiliations / alignments and transit connections that help Harlem seem absent / utterly ineffective in revitalizing Chicago's Austin neighborhood..
That's nice. It also does nothing to counter my response, so I'm not sure what the point is.
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Old 05-07-2015, 05:20 PM
 
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That's nice. It also does nothing to counter my response, so I'm not sure what the point is.
If you can tell me how any lessons from Harlem in NY can help the efforts to revitalize East St. Louis then maybe we can both contribute positive info to this thread.
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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St. Louis itself might be part of the problem as well. The city proper has been losing population for 70+ years, so why exactly would anybody want to live "just across the river" from it?

Until St. Louis (city and metro) is seen as an attractive destination nationwide, East St. Louis has no hope for cleaning up its act either.
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