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Old 04-06-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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I too was taken aback when the articles stated that he was "drunk and beligerent" ... regardless of the lack of supervision, this young man's parents have to read that about their deceased son ... their only child, btw. Preventable? Yea! But that's not the point now ... he's dead and making his parents have to read that their son was drunk and beligerent is terrible and lacks respect for the family and friends who had to see it.
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Old 04-06-2010, 03:53 PM
 
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When a young man who was a highly touted football recruit falls to his death from a fifth floor balcony, it's unfortunately a major news item. Teenager, spring break, balcony fall strongly suggests that alcohol was involved, just as in the case of a teenager who wraps his car around a tree at 2 am. No doubt it's difficult for family and friends to read the words "drunk and belligerent," but the police are just reporting the facts as the eyewitnesses provided them.
Yes, it's a tragedy all around, but no purpose is served by ignoring the obvious. And it's likely that his parents, family, and friends know perfectly well that alcohol was involved.
And FWIW, the Chicago Tribune mentioned that James had several siblings.
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:28 PM
 
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whatever ... the police didn't need to "state the facts" in this case. The fact that he was drunk and beligerant is beside the point ... he's dead, that's tragic enough.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:46 PM
 
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The fact that he was drunk and belligerent is why he's dead.
That IS the point.
And that is why this death is especially tragic, because it was so completely stupid and preventable.
If an honest presentation of the facts prevents even one other teenager from doing the same thing, or convinces even one parent that "no" is the appropriate answer to "can I go to Florida for spring break with a bunch of my friends and get trashed?" it's well worth it.
The purpose of the news stories is to present the facts, not whitewash them to make his parents feel better.
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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The fact that he was drunk and belligerent is why he's dead.
That IS the point.
And that is why this death is especially tragic, because it was so completely stupid and preventable.
If an honest presentation of the facts prevents even one other teenager from doing the same thing, or convinces even one parent that "no" is the appropriate answer to "can I go to Florida for spring break with a bunch of my friends and get trashed?" it's well worth it.
The purpose of the news stories is to present the facts, not whitewash them to make his parents feel better.
how very sensitive of you, sheesh!
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:09 AM
 
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If an honest presentation of the facts prevents even one other teenager from doing the same thing, or convinces even one parent that "no" is the appropriate answer to "can I go to Florida for spring break with a bunch of my friends and get trashed?" it's well worth it.
The purpose of the news stories is to present the facts, not whitewash them to make his parents feel better.

One doesn't have to go to Florida to have a tragic accident. I am glad the Fishers Police Department was a lot more sensitive when they handled the drowning death of a Purdue freshman in a retention pond in Breakwater following a late-night Spring Break party a few weeks ago. There is no point in smearing a young man and hurting his family members even more.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:09 AM
 
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One doesn't have to go to Florida to have a tragic accident. I am glad the Fishers Police Department was a lot more sensitive when they handled the drowning death of a Purdue freshman in a retention pond in Breakwater following a late-night Spring Break party a few weeks ago. There is no point in smearing a young man and hurting his family members even more.
Amen Shrek .... shame on me for putting myself it his parent's shoes.
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Old 04-07-2010, 10:34 AM
 
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The truth hurts, but it is the truth.
Perhaps if local police were less "sensitive" and more honest in their comments to the press regarding these tragedies, there might be fewer of them.
Just wondering if you have ever attended the funeral of a young person who died as the result of alcohol-induced stupidity? You would know that no amount of "sensitive" media coverage could possibly erase the pain and sorrow of parents, siblings, classmates, and friends.
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Old 04-07-2010, 11:20 AM
 
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claremarie
Do these Spring Breakers at Panama City Beach look stupid to you?

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Old 04-07-2010, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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The truth hurts, but it is the truth.
Perhaps if local police were less "sensitive" and more honest in their comments to the press regarding these tragedies, there might be fewer of them.
Just wondering if you have ever attended the funeral of a young person who died as the result of alcohol-induced stupidity? You would know that no amount of "sensitive" media coverage could possibly erase the pain and sorrow of parents, siblings, classmates, and friends.
yes, but piling it on makes it worse on the families. He's dead regardless. You throwing gas on the "stupidity" fire doesn't help at this point. You aren't giving any great revelations by throwing "drunk and beligerant" around. He could just as well have fallen off the balcony without being drunk or beligerant. It doesn't make any difference, he's dead. Have respect of this family.
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