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View Poll Results: Is crime really that bad in Indianapolis
Yes 21 60.00%
No 14 40.00%
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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If Indy had the original boundaries the total would obviously be lower, but the RATE would be much much much higher. Violence rate is how cities are ranked, and the annexation of suburban areas makes it look better in comparison to a place like St. Louis or Atlanta.
Yes, because Indy's city population is more than double St. Louis and nearly double the size of Atlanta, and yet they have much higher murder rates, owed mostly to their significantly larger metro populations.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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Remember the 2008 Hovey St. murders, where two babies were shot and killed in their mothers' arms? The moms were killed too, while trying to protect their babies.

One of the men connected to the murders walked away from a work release detail. Why was someone who was involved with four senseless murders even in a work release program??
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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One of the men connected to the murders walked away from a work release detail. Why was someone who was involved with four senseless murders even in a work release program??
The guy you are talking about gave the murderers the tip about the house having drugs. He was not involved in the robbery.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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The guy you are talking about gave the murderers the tip about the house having drugs. He was not involved in the robbery.
I don't see why he was on work release in 2013. He wass convicted on robbery charges and was sentenced to 12 years with two to be served on work release.


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NDIANAPOLIS (WISH) - The Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department says one of the five men convicted in the deaths of two women and their young children is on the run. Officials say they are searching for Tommy Warren. Warren was serving his sentence on work release when he reportedly walked away from his job earlier this week.
Warren was convicted on robbery charges following the Hovey Street murders back in 2008. Warren pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit robbery, a Class B felony. A judge sentenced him to 12 years, of which he was to spend two on work release.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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I don't see why he was on work release in 2013. He wass convicted on robbery charges and was sentenced to 12 years with two to be served on work release.
I am not a lawyer, but two years on work release was included in his sentence. You asked why he was where he was, now you know.
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Old 03-10-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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The question should be: does Indy have a teen problem? Ok the mall on Lafayette and 38th is known for such things, but now Castleton Square mall?! Usually the northside is immune from such problems, I think we need a mall in Carmel now. One can notice that this troublesome group is similar to one causing problems at Lafayette Square.

Fight breaks out in Castleton Square Mall | Fox 59 News – fox59.com

Teen scuffle at Castleton Square Mall - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

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Old 03-10-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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I think we need a mall in Carmel now.
Because there are spike strips along 96th Street to keep teens out?
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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Because there are spike strips along 96th Street to keep teens out?
I wish but no. The cops in Carmel and Fishers are bit different than metro cops. Metro cops are much nicer. If something like that happens in Carmel, the cops would take it more seriously. Now, if metro cops made arrests at the Castelton Square mall incident, you'd hear about possible ACLU action for targeting a certain group of individuals. I blame it on political correctness I guess. Isolated incidents are normal but the Castleton area has a certain image of catering to the middle class. You know, hard working white-collar professionals. Such people are not tough enough and don't have the energy to deal with gang style youth problems. It's all about the image that people expect.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:20 PM
 
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I wish but no. The cops in Carmel and Fishers are bit different than metro cops. Metro cops are much nicer. If something like that happens in Carmel, the cops would take it more seriously. Now, if metro cops made arrests at the Castelton Square mall incident, you'd hear about possible ACLU action for targeting a certain group of individuals. I blame it on political correctness I guess. Isolated incidents are normal but the Castleton area has a certain image of catering to the middle class. You know, hard working white-collar professionals. Such people are not tough enough and don't have the energy to deal with gang style youth problems. It's all about the image that people expect.

Just like there are no panhandlers in Carmel. The last panhandler you will see when traveling north is at the exit of 465 and 31.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Central Indiana/Indy metro area
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The question should be: does Indy have a teen problem? Ok the mall on Lafayette and 38th is known for such things, but now Castleton Square mall?! Usually the northside is immune from such problems, I think we need a mall in Carmel now. One can notice that this troublesome group is similar to one causing problems at Lafayette Square.
Chicago has two such issues. One involved fights and a kid throwing a chair through a back window of a vehicle. YouTube has the video if one wants to search for it. The other incident was stopped before anything criminal happened. CPD militarized the area, the kids started getting off the bus, saw the number of cops, and got right back on.

As far as the north side being immune from problems, you aren't listening to enough media if you believe that. Killings at a low-income voucher apartment complex near St. Vincents on the north side, robberies in the Nora area happen every few months (at least ones we hear about on the news), and plenty of burglaries taking place. The criminal element has spread in the city. As low income housing property in the central area of the city decays to the point where HUD won't even approve a voucher, and zoning won't let people live in it, the older stock apartment complexes open up a portion of their rentals to low income residents, and as is almost always the case, crime follows.

When the whole Circle Centre thing went down a few weeks back, Amos Brown had open phones on his radio show. Some guests called in saying Castleton Square Mall was also a problem area. I've heard issues with young people at this mall before, just nothing that has risen to the level of mass media attention. Lack of morals, lack of values, and a pop culture that glorifies the thug life mentality has lead us to this path. Pack mentality, combined with typical teen maturity levels, just makes these things that much worse.

Avoid the malls when you see large groups like this acting up. If already there, evacuate ASAP. Consider the two open air malls, as mass transit hasn't ruined them yet. As soon as Indy Connect gets pushed through, Fishers, Noblesville, and Carmel will have their hands full. The Hamilton Town Center mall likely will be too far away from any transit stop, so it may be the last decent place to shop. Plus it is open air, so that should help keep the trouble makers and large groups away.
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