Can you live in Indianapolis without a car? (Marion, Beech Grove: hotels, home)

[bertrandandjules]

Originally Posted by W & C

Walkscore.com agrees with your assertions.

Indianapolis' walkscore - 37, pretty poor. But both Nashville and OKC score a 36, one point worse than Indy. Jacksonville - 33, really bad. Kansas City, MO - 38.

Yeah, that sounds about right. Nearly all the streets heading out of downtown Kansas City are super-wide arterials with zooming traffic. But KC has pockets of really nice walkable areas, like Westwood and the Plaza.

Columbus is a little better, but I think that's more because they have Ohio State right there and the Short North. But given how big that school is, and how big of an influence it should have, Columbus should be more on par with Minneapolis or Denver. But it's not. It's much closer to Indy. And I think Indy is more bicycle friendly (though that's a pretty recent phenomenon and it helps to have a very pro-active mayor). And Indy's got a more walkable downtown. Columbus' downtown is super nondescript blah wedged between two really great neighborhoods (Short North and German Village) that outclass any of Indy's adjacent neighborhoods.

[graphotism]

Indy is not the place you want to be living without a car. You can do it.. but it's just not going to be a fun prospect. IndyGo is a joke.. and not a new one at that.

Even if you lived downtown.. its just not that walkable.

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by graphotism

Indy is not the place you want to be living without a car. You can do it.. but it's just not going to be a fun prospect. IndyGo is a joke.. and not a new one at that.

Even if you lived downtown.. its just not that walkable.

Downtown's not walkable?

[graphotism]

The discussion is with regards to Indianapolis. So my assertion regarding "it" not being that walkable refers to Indianapolis as a whole. Not just downtown. Downtown Indy really isnt bad to walk if you are staying in a hotel which is downtown and only planning on going to Circle Centre, Convention Center, Eiteljorg, etc..

Try leaving from downtown on foot and getting to your office in Park 100 using IndyGo or some other public transit and check back in with me if you ever make it in less than 1.50 hours.

The entire city limits is very accessible if you have a car. Without traffic jams I can't think of many places within city limits that can't be reached in 20 minutes by car.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by graphotism

The discussion is with regards to Indianapolis. So my assertion regarding "it" not being that walkable refers to Indianapolis as a whole. Not just downtown. Downtown Indy really isnt bad to walk if you are staying in a hotel which is downtown and only planning on going to Circle Centre, Convention Center, Eiteljorg, etc..

The NE quad of downtown, and the Mass Ave corridor in particular, home to a grocery store and all the various businesses is very walkable. I know several folks who live down there, and live well, with no car. Broad Ripple is walkable, and Fountain Square is getting there. The near eastside and Irvington are making strides in pockets too.

Originally Posted by graphotism

Try leaving from downtown on foot and getting to your office in Park 100 using IndyGo or some other public transit and check back in with me if you ever make it in less than 1.50 hours.

Bus 37 will get you there in about an hour.

[graphotism]

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

The NE quad of downtown, and the Mass Ave corridor in particular, home to a grocery store and all the various businesses is very walkable. I know several folks who live down there, and live well, with no car. Broad Ripple is walkable, and Fountain Square is getting there. The near eastside and Irvington are making strides in pockets too.

And so long as you plan on staying in any one of those particular areas and not travelling between them you will be golden. But that is not very realistic.

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

Bus 37 will get you there in about an hour.

This is humor. I would wager you have never actually ridden this Bus37 at all. Much less tried to make this journey (or perhaps any other on IndyGo)

The bus schedule saying that it will get you there is much different than actual reality where it shows up 20 minutes late (as a large percentage of IndyGo routes do) and then takes longer to make its route than advertised.

Get a grip. I have ridden all over the city, driven, walked, etc. I have good idea what it is actually like to get from one place to another. And not living in fantasy land.

[msamhunter]

Originally Posted by graphotism

The discussion is with regards to Indianapolis. So my assertion regarding "it" not being that walkable refers to Indianapolis as a whole. Not just downtown. Downtown Indy really isnt bad to walk if you are staying in a hotel which is downtown and only planning on going to Circle Centre, Convention Center, Eiteljorg, etc..

Try leaving from downtown on foot and getting to your office in Park 100 using IndyGo or some other public transit and check back in with me if you ever make it in less than 1.50 hours.

The entire city limits is very accessible if you have a car. Without traffic jams I can't think of many places within city limits that can't be reached in 20 minutes by car.

Indygo to park 100 is 40 minutes from downtown.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by graphotism

This is humor. I would wager you have never actually ridden this Bus37 at all. Much less tried to make this journey (or perhaps any other on IndyGo)

The bus schedule saying that it will get you there is much different than actual reality where it shows up 20 minutes late (as a large percentage of IndyGo routes do) and then takes longer to make its route than advertised.

Get a grip. I have ridden all over the city, driven, walked, etc. I have good idea what it is actually like to get from one place to another. And not living in fantasy land.

I don't need your attitude, thanks.

I have taken the 19 from downtown to work in Castleton many times, before my office relocated to Fishers. I have taken the 8 along East Washington Street on several occasions. I have taken the 22 from Fountain Square to downtown on a rainy day. I have used IndyGo to get around, as outlined in this very thread on page 2. You are entitled to your opinion, but don't talk to me about what it is like to ride the bus as though I never have. Because I have. Many times.

[msamhunter]

Originally Posted by graphotism

And so long as you plan on staying in any one of those particular areas and not travelling between them you will be golden. But that is not very realistic.




This is humor. I would wager you have never actually ridden this Bus37 at all. Much less tried to make this journey (or perhaps any other on IndyGo)

The bus schedule saying that it will get you there is much different than actual reality where it shows up 20 minutes late (as a large percentage of IndyGo routes do) and then takes longer to make its route than advertised.

Get a grip. I have ridden all over the city, driven, walked, etc. I have good idea what it is actually like to get from one place to another. And not living in fantasy land.

Wrong. I lived right off of michigan and highland and walked downtown with ease to marsh, work, government center, etc. Lived at 13th and meridian and walked to then o'malias and back to grocery shop. Office was on e. Ohio just past east st and walked to/from work everyday. I've had to catch indygo to park 100 and 96th st so i know how long it takes.

[graphotism]

Fair enough! We all have our own opinions about a city as being walkable. My opinion of a city being easily walkable is based off doing it myself and living in other cities which were either much more, equally, or much less amiable towards the pedestrian public. I will defer to the national study which rates Indy as being low on the walkability scale and leave it at that.