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Old 10-05-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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Kansas City is located just to the north of the Upland South Ozarks region and is most definitely not a Northern city either. It is in the "transition zone" between the North and South.
Ah but do Ozark people consider themselves Southern? I've actually heard it said that in Arkansas, the least culturally Southern people are those from the Ozarks.

I agree though that KC isn't a Northern city. But KC barbecue did originate with actual Southerners who migrated up there. I believe they were Black but I could be wrong.

*waits for people to say the Kansas City accent is Southern*
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Old 10-05-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: IN
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Ah but do Ozark people consider themselves Southern? I've actually heard it said that in Arkansas, the least culturally Southern people are those from the Ozarks.

I agree though that KC isn't a Northern city. But KC barbecue did originate with actual Southerners who migrated up there. I believe they were Black but I could be wrong.

*waits for people to say the Kansas City accent is Southern*
KC barbecue influence is a southern trait as well as blues music. They have the 18th and Vine St Museum in KC, MO that documents much of the history there regarding that. Most people from the Ozarks do identify more with the South than the North. Accent is "twangy" southern influences in some respects, you don't find more neutral sounding accents until you move northward closer to Omaha. Des Moines, on the other hand, is a bit more northern influenced compared to Omaha.
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Ah but do Ozark people consider themselves Southern? I've actually heard it said that in Arkansas, the least culturally Southern people are those from the Ozarks.

I agree though that KC isn't a Northern city. But KC barbecue did originate with actual Southerners who migrated up there. I believe they were Black but I could be wrong.

*waits for people to say the Kansas City accent is Southern*
Yes, Ozark people in Arkansas consider themselves southern. And they call people in Indianapolis yankees.
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:55 PM
 
Location: 78745
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Yes, Ozark people in Arkansas consider themselves southern. And they call people in Indianapolis yankees.
I think the term Yankee is highly offensive to any self-respecting Hoosier who never thought of his or her self as a Yankee.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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I think the term Yankee is highly offensive to any self-respecting Hoosier who never thought of his or her self as a Yankee.
But is it false ? I usually think of states north of Mason-Dixie as Yankees
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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I think the term Yankee is highly offensive to any self-respecting Hoosier who never thought of his or her self as a Yankee.
When I visit my family in Kentucky, they call me a Yankee. I don't take offense, I take pity on the silly Kentucky folk.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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I think the term Yankee is highly offensive to any self-respecting Hoosier who never thought of his or her self as a Yankee.
I still think of Hoosiers are northerners. No, not northerners in the sense of Boston, but just not from the South and from north of the M-D.
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Old 10-06-2015, 01:12 AM
 
Location: 78745
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But is it false ? I usually think of states north of Mason-Dixie as Yankees
The entire time I lived in Indiana, not once did I ever hear a Hoosier refer to his or self or any other Hoosier as a Yankee. You just dont hear Hoosiers calling one another a Yankee. To me, a Yankee is somebody from North and East of Pennsylvania to the Northern most point in the State of Maine. .


Sorry, and no offense and nothing personal, but Yankee is not a title I could wear proudly, mainly because that's not who (or what) I am.
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Old 10-06-2015, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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The entire time I lived in Indiana, not once did I ever hear a Hoosier refer to his or self or any other Hoosier as a Yankee. You just dont hear Hoosiers calling one another a Yankee. To me, a Yankee is somebody from North and East of Pennsylvania to the Northern most point in the State of Maine. .


Sorry, and no offense and nothing personal, but Yankee is not a title I could wear proudly, mainly because that's not who (or what) I am.
I can't recall hearing any Midwesterner refer to themselves as a yankee, but that's a term southerners liberally use to refer to people north of the Mason-Dixon. It is often said in a derogatory fashion. I can be defiant and wear the title proudly, because I'd rather be thought of as a yankee than a redneck.
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Old 10-06-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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KC barbecue influence is a southern trait as well as blues music. They have the 18th and Vine St Museum in KC, MO that documents much of the history there regarding that. Most people from the Ozarks do identify more with the South than the North. Accent is "twangy" southern influences in some respects, you don't find more neutral sounding accents until you move northward closer to Omaha. Des Moines, on the other hand, is a bit more northern influenced compared to Omaha.
Are you referring to the KC accent as Southern? I've never heard it classified as such by anyone.

Ps, Yankee means a completely different thing based on context. Even the Mason Dixon line makes no difference as some Southerners believe that Virginians are Yankees. So in other words, pay no attention to the term. It just means "somebody who doesn't fit the Southern definition of a particular person".

It is true Midwesterners don't use the term Yankee. I don't know of in NY or New England it's used much, either. Always thought of it as kinda Southern.
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