08-21-2013, 10:00 AM
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Having "friends in the city" and "considering moving there" doesn't mean you are an expert on a particular city. I have friends in many cities, but I don't claim to be an expert on their public parks systems.
Take it from someone who has spent a significant amount of time in both cities. Louisville wins. No competition.
lulz...........so what you are saying is "You don't know, because I know, so listen to me for the reasons i won't listen to you, cuz i have totally been there more than you."
08-21-2013, 10:05 AM
Location: Indianapolis
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No, I actually grew up in the Louisville area and have spent a large portion of my life around Louisville, in addition to spending the last four years in Indy. I think I have a good basis for comparison.
08-21-2013, 10:08 AM
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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No, I actually grew up in the Louisville area and have spent a large portion of my life around Louisville, in addition to spending the last four years in Indy. I think I have a good basis for comparison.
Yeah, I am sure of it, Cincinnati too I bet. Dual citizenship I assume. Probably went to Male and Taft at the same time.
08-21-2013, 06:20 PM
Location: Where the heart is...
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You obviously have never spent a significant amount of time in Louisville. They have a wonderful public park system with huge parks connecting large portions of the city. The park system in Louisville dates back to the 1890s and was designed by Frederick Olmsted who created Central Park. The three flagship parks Cherokee, Iroquois, and Shawnee are all better than any park in Indianapolis.
Indianapolis (nor any city for that matter) need not be compared to Louisville or any other city in the U.S. as they have over 3,400 acres of parks, parkways, and boulevards which serve as a legacy to the City of Indianapolis and their desire for the outdoors to be available for their citizens to visit and enjoy.
The Indianapolis Park and Boulevard System is a group of parks, parkways, and boulevards in Indianapolis, that was designed by landscape architect George Edward Kessler in the early part of the twentieth century. Also known as the Kessler System, the district includes 3,474 acres and has shaped the city through the present day. This Historic District was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 2003.
Kessler retained many elements of the Earnshaw & Olmsted (stepson of Frederick Olmsted) plans, including the linear parks and boulevards along White River and Fall Creek. However, his plan was much more far-reaching in scope, encompassing all the open public land in the city. Parkways would follow the four major watercourses in the city - White River, Fall Creek, Pleasant Run, and Pogue's Run - taking advantage of the meandering streams, open vistas, and wooded areas that the city's geography afforded. Besides their aesthetic aspects, the parkways also helped prevent pollution of the waterways and provided flood control.
Indianapolis Park and Boulevard System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also of interest...
George Edward Kessler and the Park System--Indianapolis: A Discover Our Shared Heritage Travel Itinerary
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08-21-2013, 08:11 PM
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This idea that Louisville has superior parks to Indianapolis is laughable. (at least in my experience)
While I agree this article is pretty much a load of crap and in no reputable way describes the public health of Indy, I have to agree that Louisville's park system far and away blows Indy's out of the water. White River SP is nice, but Louisville also has a downtown park that hosts concerts and stretches for probably 1.5 miles along the Ohio River and includes a pedestrian/bike bridge that stretches a mile across the river to Indiana where they are completing the ramp into Jeff. A soccer park, a museum in a historic water tower/pumping station, and another park past that basically butt right up next to each other beyond the Waterfront park, making the public space basically stretch for 4-5 miles along the river. The Indiana side just a mile across the river from downtown also has paths all along the river front, the Falls of the Ohio SP, and a nature/bike trail that is under construction and will stretch all the way to New Albany when done.
About the same distance from downtown Louisville as Eagle Creek sits in Indy, is a 6000+ acre forest covering the hills in the knobs with over 30 miles of trails. Then, while Indy's major parks are mostly on the outskirts of town, Louisville has several Olmsted parks scattered throughout the city. I think you would find Cherokee and Iroquois parks more than match anything inside of 465 in Indy, although I really like Holliday Park and Garfield conservatory.
Louisville also is currently finishing the Parklands along Floyds Fork which is a very long string of parks along the far east side and will include a portion of the Louisville Loop which is a bike trail that when done will stretch for a distance far greater than the Monon. It's connectivity for the time being is a little lacking, but there are long enough sections done to make it useable and enjoyable for people across different parts of the city.
When you responded to another poster the following (lulz...........so what you are saying is "You don't know, because I know, so listen to me for the reasons i won't listen to you, cuz i have totally been there more than you.") it seemed you were looking for details on this instead of blanket opinions so I thought I would offer some.
Links:
Olmsted Parks:
Our Parks | Frederick Law Olmsted Parks
Waterfront Park:
Welcome to Waterfront Park!
The Parklands:
The Parklands | A Dream Realized Through 21st Century Parks
Louisville Loop:
The Louisville Loop > Louisville Loop Overview > Ohio River Valley > Maps
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08-22-2013, 01:19 AM
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imo louisville has better parks,the ohio river is beautiful
08-22-2013, 06:11 AM
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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About the same distance from downtown Louisville as Eagle Creek sits in Indy, is a 6000+ acre forest covering the hills in the knobs with over 30 miles of trails. Then, while Indy's major parks are mostly on the outskirts of town, Louisville has several Olmsted parks scattered throughout the city. I think you would find Cherokee and Iroquois parks more than match anything inside of 465 in Indy, although I really like Holliday Park and Garfield conservatory.
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I've been to Iriquois Park and the stuff on the river, among other parks in Louisville. I liked them, but I never once thought "My God this is incredible I have to leave Indianapolis right now because nothing in Indianapolis compares" which is the suggested response by the OP and anyone who doesn't have that response just does not know anything, according to him.
08-23-2013, 07:22 AM
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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You would think that since Louisville is home to a major tobacco company, that they would have more smokers... no????
08-23-2013, 04:57 PM
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You would think that since Louisville is home to a major tobacco company, that they would have more smokers... no????
Louisville has actually had a comprehensive smoking ban (bars included) for almost 7-8 years. I'm sure that has played some part in decreasing that number. Of course you can still get 23 different kinds of bourbon for breakfast at IHOP and that's not all that healthy in and of itself, but no smoking. Just kidding.....sort of.
11-04-2017, 07:17 AM
Location: Indiana
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Just to bump this up again with some facts:
Per Louisville Metro Parks site: Louisville's Metro Parks system includes 120 parks covering more than 13,000 acres , with 9 golf courses, 12 community centers, 2 arts and cultural centers, 1 Adapted and Inclusive (AIR) recreation center, five swimming pools (including the indoor Mary T. Meagher Aquatic Center), two historic homes, and the nation's largest municipal urban forest (Jefferson). Not included but in the metro Louisville area is the Falls of the Ohio fossil bed with trails, the greenway which will connect New Albany to Jeffersonville with a paved bike and walking path that winds along the Ohio River. Floyds Fork offers miles of canoeing. There's also kayaking below the Falls on the Ohio River as well. New Albany, Clarksville and Jeff also have newer aquatic centers. There's also a 400-acre forest with hiking trails in Floyds Knobs, a 15-minute drive from downtown Louisville. If you wanted to go 30 minutes out of Louisville, there's the O'Bannon State Park in Harrison County, Indiana that has miles of challenging mountain bike trails as does Otter Creek in Kentucky. Lot of steep hills in the area.
Per IndyParks: 211 parks, 11,254 acres , 125 playgrounds, 155 sports fields, 135 miles of trails, 23 recreation centers and nature centers, 19 aquatic centers, 21 spray grounds, 13 golf courses and 4 dog parks. Indy does have some nice parks.
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People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)