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Old 04-05-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Unless you are HR you don't know what someone has done unless they tell you. Btw, businesses are victimized more by their law abiding employees more often than criminals.
Convictions don't make people criminals

CHOICES make people criminals

Plenty of criminals out there who have never been caught.

The "law abiding" don't victimize...criminals victimize so NO businesses are not victimized more often by law abiding employees.
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Indy
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Are we talking about overthrowing a tyrannical government or preventing inner-city crime? Or are those two issues somehow related and I'm just not understanding your logic?
Responding to your post questioning guns in cities. You don't ha e to rely on the government to protect you, nor should you. Many of us.choose to protect ourselves. If no Americans had done so, then we would not be the USA, regardless of the threat. Tyrannical empire or.criminals trying to victimize you.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:22 AM
 
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Unless you are HR you don't know what someone has done unless they tell you. Btw, businesses are victimized more by their law abiding employees more often than criminals.
Law abiding employees don't victimize their employers.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:28 AM
 
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Six more shootings overnight in this week of violence.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:41 AM
 
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People would be smart to carry a mindset of protecting themselves and their families wherever they are.

Arm yourself for self preservation, protect your property and stay aware. Teach your children, family, friends and co-workers to do the same.

As the Boy Scouts say, Be Prepared
If you're not in the drug game you are fairly safe. Indianapolis has become a primary heroin transportation route and a secondary cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and MDMA route. Stem the flow of drugs and the crime rate will drop.
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis Indiana
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If you're not in the drug game you are fairly safe. Indianapolis has become a primary heroin transportation route and a secondary cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and MDMA route. Stem the flow of drugs and the crime rate will drop.
Uhhh..............would you like to explain that to the widow and family of Nathan Trapuzzano?
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Uhhh..............would you like to explain that to the widow and family of Nathan Trapuzzano?
At any rate, drugs and gang related activity are responsible for the vast majority of murders in the city. Trapuzzano was an exception, but not the rule when it comes to homicides.
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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Uhhh..............would you like to explain that to the widow and family of Nathan Trapuzzano?
Or the family of the store employee who was shot and killed this week by a shoplifter, or the families of the two pizza delivery drivers shot and killed while simply trying to make a living.
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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Or the family of the store employee who was shot and killed this week by a shoplifter, or the families of the two pizza delivery drivers shot and killed while simply trying to make a living.
Why not include the man who shot his ex-wife? How about the two women who hitched a ride and was raped? My point is drugs are being dumped on the streets and it is leading to an increase in violent crime. More law enforcement is needed but the city is strapped for cash. Indianapolis needs to tax the commuters from the surrounding localities who work in Indianapolis, add to the traffic problem, cause wear and tear on the roads but add very little to the economy.
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Indy
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Uhhh..............would you like to explain that to the widow and family of Nathan Trapuzzano?
Or the pizza delivery guy who was shot and killed.

Regardless of the fact that they are exceptions, the point is, protect yourself.

Only an idiot would argue differently.

The police couldn't be there to prevent these crimes and can't be expected to be everywhere.

I choose to arm and protect myself.

The fact that most homicide victims are involved in criminal activity doesn't mean a true innocent can't become a victim. Never mind other crimes such as robbery, rape, assault which one could protect oneself from.

Don't argue with me or anyone else that makes the choice to arm and defend ourselves and our families.
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