08-26-2019, 06:36 AM
Location: TN/NC
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The fact is Luck had to be at least toying with this idea for awhile. Retiring this soon before the season really doesn't give the team a chance to recover. I'm not saying that he shouldn't have retired, but the timing is awful.
08-26-2019, 08:46 AM
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The team was not honest about his condition either. Kept saying he was fine and his ankle was just sore. Make us all think he was fine to return. And its not like Luck had no idea of his condition the whole off-season. Unless something drastic changed for the worse in a few weeks, he owed it to the city and team to suck it up or retire much much earlier. The whole thing is a disaster.
08-26-2019, 06:37 PM
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Only problem I have is the timing. He should have given the Colts the off season to get a replacement. Otherwise it makes sense to me. He's already a millionaire many times over and already has a legacy of being elite when healthy. His family was already rich before he got to the NFL. Given how hard playing football is on the body I'm amazed this isn't more common.
08-26-2019, 08:13 PM
Location: Wyoming
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Perhaps, just perhaps, some of those booing fans were booing the loss of Andrew Luck. Think about it. Did you fans cheer when he announced his retirement? I'd think not, and a case could be made that the opposite of cheering is booing. Just saying, some of those boos were probably the fans' way of saying they'll miss their quarterback... kind of an "OH NOOOOO!"
08-27-2019, 03:09 AM
Location: Tampa Bay Burbs
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Not giving more advance notice is just proof that he wanted to play so badly. Like a little kid who loves school and gets sick but doesn't say anything and goes to school anyway...just to get sent home by the school nurse. Glad he was able to do this before the start of the season and not in the middle of a game.
08-27-2019, 06:30 AM
Location: Fishers, IN
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Perhaps, just perhaps, some of those booing fans were booing the loss of Andrew Luck. Think about it. Did you fans cheer when he announced his retirement? I'd think not, and a case could be made that the opposite of cheering is booing. Just saying, some of those boos were probably the fans' way of saying they'll miss their quarterback... kind of an "OH NOOOOO!"
Given all the reports of people burning his jersey, season ticket holders demanding a refund, and supposedly someone even slashed his tires, I highly doubt this is the case.
08-27-2019, 12:08 PM
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Given all the reports of people burning his jersey, season ticket holders demanding a refund, and supposedly someone even slashed his tires, I highly doubt this is the case.
Unbelievable. This decision is between Luck and the Colts and to be blunt, it is nobody else's business, including the fans.
I remember when Bobby Hull joined the Hartford Whalers at the end of his career. He could still play but it was obvious time was taking its toll on his game and body. He retired abruptly during the season but nobody got bent out of shape and reacted in this Manner. These Colts fans are some really twisted and immature people that can't handle the decision of a professional ball player to decide the best route for his personal and physical health for the future.
08-27-2019, 03:40 PM
Location: Florida & Arizona
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If for nothing else, you have to respect the guy for calling it quits when he can. Look at all the aging players who didn't and finished out their careers doing poorly and/or getting injured even worse.
08-28-2019, 06:46 AM
Location: Central Indiana/Indy metro area
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Unbelievable. This decision is between Luck and the Colts and to be blunt, it is nobody else's business, including the fans.
People forget, they aren't just fans, they are paying customers. I've never been a fanboy of anything to any real extent. I can enjoy watching a game, following the news headlines, but I've just never been able to get behind pro-sports. It has to do with a bunch of grown adults playing games on teams owned by very wealthy people....and they are all getting taxpayer subsidies so they can obtain these massive salaries. These folks are the real welfare kings of society. Get a population to subsidized your workplace to the tune of hundreds of millions to billions and thus no reason to worry about slashing the payroll 50-75%.
The customers pay good money, on top of the taxes many of them pay that also help keep the business going along with the status quo. Then add in the intoxication levels of many who were in the stadium. I'd be ticked off if I was a season ticket holder. A local radio talk show host and his callers entertained the idea that this was a fraud. I'm not sure I can take it that far, but I do think that these businesses know just how bad things are long, long before such announcements are made.
At the same time, I also will state that this is another example of buyer beware. This business that is so beloved by many, to the point of fanaticism by some, ultimately is a business that is out there to make as much money as possible and will do whatever it can to keep revenues not only coming in, but up. Of course, being a sports business, all they really have to do for customer relations is have a competitive, winning team. All the fanatics know that only one team a year can win the super bowl. Indy fans are bandwagon fans. They just want a winning more than losing product and good playoff runs. Maybe not the playoffs every year, but the vast majority of them.
I can't blame Luck. When I read about the kidney issue, I would've called it quits right then.
09-15-2019, 01:25 AM
Location: Chicago, IL
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Wow....such a sad situation for the Colts fan base.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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