Is my impression of Indianapolis accurate? (Bloomington, Marion: high crime, house prices, job market)

[sheerbliss]

Originally Posted by Dyadic

Statistically speaking guess what group commits the majority of rapes, suicide by firearm, death by drunk driving and aggravated assault? Let's play nice.

Are those items of particular interest, or are they cherry picked to elicit a particular conclusion?

Leaving out drunk driving and suicide by any means, which have little or no bearing on neighborhood safety, "White people accounted for 60% of U.S. residents but 46% of all persons arrested for rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and other assault, and 39% of all arrestees," according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

[Dyadic]

Originally Posted by sheerbliss

Are those items of particular interest, or are they cherry picked to elicit a particular conclusion?

Leaving out drunk driving and suicide by any means, which have little or no bearing on neighborhood safety, "White people accounted for 60% of U.S. residents but 46% of all persons arrested for rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and other assault, and 39% of all arrestees," according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Minority crime stats are cherry picked all the time. Also why should drunk driving and suicide be excluded particularly since it has become a national topic along with opioid overdose and addiction. There are significantly more deaths by suicide when compared to homicide. Also the CDC lists suicide as in its violent related injury/death statistics. If any one group is so eager to engage in didactic dialogue then surely that group should be open to self examination.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-21

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/images/lc..._1100w850h.jpg

[sheerbliss]

In plain English: bring up not only cherry-picked but irrelevant facts to win arguments.

For those who care about getting the right answer, that's incorrect--but thanks for playing.

[Dyadic]

Originally Posted by sheerbliss

In plain English: bring up not only cherry-picked but irrelevant facts to win arguments.

For those who care about getting the right answer, that's incorrect--but thanks for playing.

What is the right answer?

[Don_Draper]

I may be moving to Indy. Totally unexpected, but after researching it, it seems to be growing on me. How has it changed over the years, both good and bad? It has to be better than where I live now, or at least I hope!

[sweetana3]

Don_Draper, we have lived here 40+ years. We live downtown and love the city.

Pros:

Medical care is exceptional and widely available.

Competition in grocery and big box stores of all kinds helps to moderate prices. Even downtown now has a Whole Food, Needlers, and a Kroger all within walking distance for me. If I had no car, there are doctors, dentists and a hardware store all within walking distance.

Crime is a concern but follow common sense rules.

Interesting blend of cultures with loads of Hispanic and Asian restaurants and grocery stores. We even have our own Mexican Consulate.

Way more restaurants than in the 70s/80s both chains and excellent top level ones.

Excellent educational opportunities with IUPUI and Ivy Tech right in the city.

Cons:
Because of the size of the city, the public transportation has problems being really useful. However, it is always trying to improve.

Labor shortage exists for all the attractions that need workers. Example: city cannot open all the pools, State Fair has trouble attracting all the temp workers needed, hours are often short for even small businesses.

Gentrification is (or was before the sudden slow down) rapidly taking over almost all the neighborhoods around the core. Real estate especially for affordable houses has been a real concern. Lots of apartments being built downtown but rents are starting around $1,000-1200. Big issues are found in affordable and family apartments with many complexes becoming run down and having serious issues all around town.


Indy is huge so a car can become a need. But there are all kinds of great areas in and outside of I465. I am just not a suburban person.

[MortonR]

Originally Posted by Don_Draper

I may be moving to Indy. Totally unexpected, but after researching it, it seems to be growing on me. How has it changed over the years, both good and bad? It has to be better than where I live now, or at least I hope!

Where do you live?

Indianapolis has "matured", I believe, in a positive way. That being said, every place has it's pros and cons. What's more important is what your priorities are. I've lived all over (and outside) of this wonderful country, and I've yet to find the perfect place to live. That's not to say I'm picky or critical, it's saying that nowhere I've lived has met every requirement or desire that I have for the perfect place. It's a matter of compromise, and identifying what's most important to you.

I can compare Indianapolis from the time I was growing up on the Southside many, many decades ago to a few years ago when I owned a home in Greenwood. A lot of things have changed, and for the most part, for the better.


RM

[Don_Draper]

Originally Posted by MortonR

Where do you live?

Indianapolis has "matured", I believe, in a positive way. That being said, every place has it's pros and cons. What's more important is what your priorities are. I've lived all over (and outside) of this wonderful country, and I've yet to find the perfect place to live. That's not to say I'm picky or critical, it's saying that nowhere I've lived has met every requirement or desire that I have for the perfect place. It's a matter of compromise, and identifying what's most important to you.

I can compare Indianapolis from the time I was growing up on the Southside many, many decades ago to a few years ago when I owned a home in Greenwood. A lot of things have changed, and for the most part, for the better.


RM

I live in Oklahoma City, but am from Atlanta. I've been lost out here for a decade. OKC is a weird town and feels like a very small, cliquish town.

I love that Indy has a football team and that my team's old QB is starting for them now. If I move, I will become a Colts fan. Downsides to Atlanta are traffic, crime, and pollution. Upsides are you're close to mountains, the ocean, and there's tons to do. Indy feels like a compromise between where I now live and Atlanta I've also heard people there are more welcoming towards transplants. They're not welcoming here in OKC at all. Friendly, but not inclusive. I've read a lot about crime in Indy, but I'm only slightly concerned. I will likely live north of the city.

I agree with your assessment of finding the perfect place to live. South Florida was too hot, Atlanta has high crime and traffic, and OKC is just plain boring and in the middle of nowhere.

[sheerbliss]

I'm a transplant and found that people are really friendly. I'm from Denver and even though I grew up there, I never fit in and generally found people prickly and standoffish. It's also in the middle of nowhere.

My best advice to avoid crime is to avoid hanging around criminals and avoid being out late at night.

[MortonR]

Originally Posted by Don_Draper

I live in Oklahoma City, but am from Atlanta. I've been lost out here for a decade. OKC is a weird town and feels like a very small, cliquish town.

I love that Indy has a football team and that my team's old QB is starting for them now. If I move, I will become a Colts fan. Downsides to Atlanta are traffic, crime, and pollution. Upsides are you're close to mountains, the ocean, and there's tons to do. Indy feels like a compromise between where I now live and Atlanta I've also heard people there are more welcoming towards transplants. They're not welcoming here in OKC at all. Friendly, but not inclusive. I've read a lot about crime in Indy, but I'm only slightly concerned. I will likely live north of the city.

I agree with your assessment of finding the perfect place to live. South Florida was too hot, Atlanta has high crime and traffic, and OKC is just plain boring and in the middle of nowhere.

I have friends who live in Tulsa and northeast of there in rural areas. What you describe about OKC sounds like what they've told me as well, and they're locals. They're into the rural thing, so where they're at suits them well.

I think Indy is a pretty welcoming place for the most part.

Do understand that when you get outside of the area it gets very red, very quick. That's not a criticism, it's an observation. There are outlying areas that are quite conservative, so do be aware of that. Not to politicize, but in order to explain, Marion County is quite "blue" compared to the surrounding areas, I think.

RM