08-16-2008, 11:12 AM
Location: Small town Texas, from Southern California
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Can anypne from California give me your opinion of moving to Indiana?? Just curious, what you like or don't like....what you miss (other than In N Out-haha) what you love, or any regrets.....
I am a stay at home mo, of 4....3 of them are under 5...so schools and kids are super important. We live a nice life in California, but have been itching to get out of this rat race for a few years now.....for a slower more mellow FRIENDLIER place in the US!!!
Sometimes i read that people in other states are kinda home bodies?? Is this true?? Do you see kids out in the neighborhoods? Playing, people walking or at parks??
I have read a little about Indiana, Zion, Carmel and Fishers.....what is the scoop?? Pricing, do people like it, the last thing i want is another Orange County!!
Thanks
Christina
08-16-2008, 01:25 PM
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I can tell you that there is no Orange County in IN!
No kids here, so can't comment on that.
I love SO CA, but there are very few things I miss.
I like the snow seasons here and I'm not missing out on anything like opera, ballet or plays.
I'm accustomed to manicured lawns which you don't see here and good landscaping is almost unheard of. Can't find any Christmas extravaganza neighborhoods like in OC. Even though they're over the top, it's a fun a thing I enjoy.
If you're accustomed to the farmers market goods and prices or if you ever shop the Ranch Market in La Habra, forget it, there's nothing like that in any of these states and those prices don't exist here. You won't find globe artichokes 5/$1 as a matter of fact you won't find globe artichokes.
Currently, I can't find Jicama here and they don't know what it is.
Fishers is a quiet little city, but they think they're big and in some ways that's good. It's just off the freeway so it's easy to get to Indy. Fishers has all of the common stores and chain restaurants, lot's of new and nice apartment buildings and is a clean city.
Fishers is just south of exit 10 on the I-69 which is the site of the Hamilton square which is new and is designed in the latest trend of creating a shopping center in the fashion of a village complete with round-abouts and a town square and on it's south side a new Imax theatre.
Carmel is about the same except a little more upscale and actually fewer of the common businesses and apartments. Carmel has a Fresh Market.
We live in the North and are seriously considering moving to one of those cities.
It's true that people here are home-bodies more than what we're accustomed to. It's part of the belt that makes up most of the % of people in the statistics of people who never stray more than 50 miles from their birthplace. I live in an historic neighborhood and only one of 107 households is from another state and that one is from Illinois.
Now that I've written you a book....
08-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Location: Small town Texas, from Southern California
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Thanks!! When i say OC I should have said, i DO NOT live in OC, but in Temecula, When times were great, my husband and i joked this is like a small OC....Temecula got big, with cheaper housing than OC or San Diego, so it was the in between for commuters. Now the economy here is so bad, it is sad we are excited that gas went under $4 a gallon, that is ridiculous!!!!! But Starbucks is still packed!!
I am no ballet or opera type, we have too m any little kids...just want a clean place with great schools, to raise them. California got really screwed up along the way, so it is really a bummer.
Can you tell me what the weather is like in those places?? Carmel/Fishers?? I ask because i know it will get the 4 seasons, which we never see here. We are self employed, my husband does landscape/decorative concrete, with our weather, he can work all year (if it is busy) But snow and rain change that...so if you could give me some insight, great.
Are people pretty friendly?? Funny because we have been to other states, and everyone seems so friendly, i wonder if it is just that we are used to a lot of people being unfriendly..I do not mean everyone, i mean people do not go out of their way to approach or welcome you here, it is sad...
Anywyas, i appreciate your help!!
Thanks
Christina
PS I have heard about fruits and vegetables in other states not being like here, i get that, but is it decent?? Bummer about the artichokes, i LOVE them....Yum
08-17-2008, 09:49 AM
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Sometimes i read that people in other states are kinda home bodies?? Is this true?? Do you see kids out in the neighborhoods? Playing, people walking or at parks??
Yes, to tell you the truth i've seen move life in downtown indianapolis on a normal friday night than i did on a saturday night in chicago the day before a large even. A for kids it changes i'm a teen and NO one comes out of the house to just play but when i was a kid it was very very fun because all the other kids whould come outside. I don't want to go on but people in Indianapolis like to do things and we can do it because alot of stuff is close.
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08-17-2008, 11:19 AM
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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We lived in Fishers for 4 years. It's an ok place to live. I say it's ok because we love it so much more in Columbus, an hour south of Indianapolis. My 3 kids are able to step outside and find someone to play with without having to make a "playdate" reservation with a neighbor. That was unheard of in Fishers. Our neighbors here are established, not transient (unlike Fishers), no HOA (unlike Fishers) ... people are very friendly down here, no keeping up with the Joneses mentality.
Again, there's nothing wrong with Fishers, I know people who wouldn't dream of moving from there.
08-17-2008, 04:53 PM
Location: Small town Texas, from Southern California
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Domergurl
Thanks!! What about Carmel?? I am clueless in Indiana, i need to get a map, but can you tell me a little about it?? Housing costs, schools ( i hear they are good) People??
Thanks again in advance!!
Christina
08-18-2008, 06:49 AM
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Carmel has top rated schools. But the housing is a bit more expensive than Fishers, overall. In this market, there are deals to be had. The only issue I had with Carmel schools is that all the schools feed into one huge high school. Fishers just opened a second high school and are adding a third, maybe. Carmel, Fishers and Zionsville sit on top of Marion County (Indianapolis). It's pretty classic suburban. Everything you would need is there, stores, restaurants ...
I'm sure you would find California transplants. It's different, of course, weatherwise, cost of living wise. You'll find the area classic midwest. Friendly people, good neighbors.
08-18-2008, 07:37 AM
Location: Small town Texas, from Southern California
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Domergurl
Thanks again!!!
How would class cost of living/housing?
Southern California is ridiculous, we do own a new house, and are used to the cost of living, it is all the other stuff that we don't like.....
my kidos are 5, 4 & 18 months, maybe they would get a new HS by then!! haha!!
so i have read Fishers is pretty expensive?? Carmel more, and what about Zionsville? Are they all in close proximity of each other?? Like you said there are deals out there, we got a great deall on ours, that is not always a good thing, on our street, these houses sold for at top of market $850k, mind you it is a tract house, 12-15k lot, 3800-4200 sq ft, in a very desireable area. we bought 6 months ago, at $526k, people were not happy....So they assume we could not afford to buy at the high price, and we are a lower class of people....little do they know!!
Thanks for your info!!
08-18-2008, 07:49 AM
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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The Indiana market is down, but not like California down. I don't think that people are ready to go into desperation sale mode, but you could have your pick of the litter in either of those 3 places for 500K. Carmel housing is more expensive than Fishers overall, but there are multi-million dollar homes in all 3 area. Zionsville is smaller and they want to keep it that way. Personally, if we ever move back up to that area, I'd look there first. Nothing wrong with Fishers or Carmel, just a personal preference. I like places aren't into sprawl for sprawl purposes, plus the schools in Zionsville are smaller and were recently nationally ranked.
I'd suggest you bring the family out for a visit before committing. There have been people here who claim that the mold and pollen is horrible here. I wouldn't know, I don't have allergies, but my former Fishers neighbor moved here from OC and her allergies went through the roof within a week.
I will say this though, with your kids being the ages they are, you will need to immediately get a membership to the Children's Museum of Indianapolis. It's out of this world.
08-18-2008, 08:58 PM
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I lived in Orange county in past, and now in Indianapolis
We lived in Orange county in the past. Now we are in Carmel.
I think it all depends on what kind of people you are, what you do for living, and many different factors. This is my and my wife's personal experience, may not apply to you:
The weather: overall cold, unpleasant, unpredictable. However, if you like "harsh/wild nature", you'll see it here. From frozen winters to windy storms, to heavy showers, to hot humidity. Beautiful fall with all color trees, short spring... Unstable, unpredictable weather. Almost always some unpleasant wind being around.
The Prices: home prices way less than Orange county. No comparison.
People/culture: close minded overall, not very open to other people. Priorities always given to Indiana residents, good luck if you're looking for a job!
Technology/civilization: at least one step behind other states, definitely behind California. Tend to grow slower than other states.
Politics: people afraid of talking about politics at work. In CA you can easily say what's in your mind. Here, kind of like third world countries, people afraid of talking, so you don't know what's in their mind.
Less diversity than California, more red necks, but also more nice simple people too (as you expect to see in farm-oriented less civilized countries).
Overall, bottomline, I do not recommend moving from California to Indiana, unless you're 100% sure the bridge remains open behind you in a likely case that you decide to return.
Now, if it happens that you decide to move, and if you're concerned about your kids and the family and having a quiet safe life, you should only consider Carmel or Zionsville for living. These two towns have best schools and safest neighborhoods. Most professionals live in these two towns. Carmel is more diverse, having people from other nationalities (about 7% foreigners, mainly chinese; and then probably 92% whites, very rare african-americans), while Zionsville is mostly whites, perhaps 1-2% foreigners, and again very rare african-americans. Housing is maybe maybe a bit more expensive in Zionsville. Property taxes less in Carmel. Commute to downtown (If you work in downtown), easier from Zionsville than Carmel. Trafic less in Zionsville than Carmel.
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Most Common Occupations - Health diagnosing and treating practitioners and other technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)