Mansions in Indy for cheap. Why? (Indianapolis, Gary: rental car, apartments, city hall)

[smoking357]

Originally Posted by wh15395

Is this a joke?

First, there is an Amtrak station downtown, plus there is a plan (although not likely to happen), to bring light rail downtown.

Call me when that happens. Both you and I know that "light rail" in Indy will consist of a line between downtown and the airport, exactly what nobody needs and a complete waste of time and money.

Second, Circle Centre Mall is widely known as one of the most successful downtown malls in the country.

I know a couple downtown malls. Water Tower Place, Trump Tower. Trust me, kiddo, Indy doesn't come close to those. Park the pickup; rent a car, and see some of the country. you'll learn a few things.

Most cities have stores downtown, not malls. Real cities don't have the downtown space to waste on malls or football stadiums. Since nobody goes to downtown Indy, the real estate is a lot cheaper, and nobody's trying to use it for a more highly valued purpose.

If you ever decide to go to college, take an Economics class. Ask your Prof to go over this concept.

Third, you haven't named one good thing about downtown Columbus. All you have been able to do is make up lies about downtown Indianapolis. Please tell me what is better about downtown Columbus because I am dying to know for the next time I am forced to be there?

Don't go to Columbus. You'll just be out of place in a big city.

Some cities have central urban cores: Chicago, Cleveland, Atlanta, NYC, etc.

Some cities don't: Indianapolis, Dayton, Grand Rapids, Toledo.

Indy doesn't even have a functional city market. There's just nothing to do downtown, and sporting events don't count. You can't put a stadium downtown and say it's a "downtown activity."

Quit cheerleading for Indy. You might convince someone to move here, and you and I both know that's not fair to them.

[Yeppity]

Originally Posted by smoking357

grow up. Face facts.

Get help. Soon.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by smoking357

Real cities don't have the downtown space to waste on malls or football stadiums.

You are suggesting that Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Atlanta, Houston, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Nashville, Detroit, Seattle, Denver, New Orleans, and New York City are not real cities?

[domergurl]

hey everyone, shall we have a donation drive to get smoking out of Indianapolis? I think he's going a bit coo coo

[Colts]

Mods, thank you.

[Miserable Midwest]

I don't agree with much of what "smoking" said, but he did raise an interesting point that I had not thought of. As recently as the late 80s, we had decent shopping downtown. Those old department stores like Blocks and Ayres had a lot of character that I miss from today's bland malls. I used to go shopping downtown a few times per year back then. I think I've been to Circle Center maybe 3 or 4 times since it's been open.

With the exception of the Speedway, I think Indy and Columbus are about equal. We have the Colts and Pacers. They have Ohio State football and the Blue Jackets.

Population rank is nearly identical (Columbus ranked 32nd with 1.8 million, Indy ranked 34th with 1.74 million).

I've always thought of Columbus as a twin sister to Indy since they are so similar.

[chalcedony]

Originally Posted by MissingIndiana

I've never been a big Columbus, OH cheerleader and I agree that downtown is pretty dull, but it does have many more neighborhoods close to the city center that are far nicer than those surrounding downtown Indy such as German Village, Victorian Village, Bexley, Upper Arlington, and Grandview. Columbus also has the Short North, which is similar to Indy's Mass Ave.

Keep in mind that half of those "neighborhoods" you listed are actually suburbs, with a separate mayor, school district, etc. Bexley, Upper Arlington and Grandview Heights are suburbs.

That isn't to say they aren't nice, but they are definitely not part of Columbus.

[cdr18]

Since when is Grand Rapids dull??

[magnasty]

Originally Posted by MissingIndiana

"Your town SUCKS and you should grow up"
"No way, my town embarrasses your town"
"Psh, if you can't see how cool my town is you must not get out very much"
"Well, the lack of trains in your town clearly indicates no one likes to go there and the idea of an urban core is stupid, but my town's is still better just for the record"

Blah, blah, blah. Sorry, I guess I'm just not in the mood this morning. If anyone wants to continue this pointless subjective banter, may I suggest moving it to the Columbus vs. Indy thread?

I agree....and by the way, "My dad can beat up your dad!" *




*actually he can't due to his advance age and many health issues, but you see where I am going with this.

[MissingIndiana]

Originally Posted by chalcedony

Keep in mind that half of those "neighborhoods" you listed are actually suburbs, with a separate mayor, school district, etc. Bexley, Upper Arlington and Grandview Heights are suburbs.

That isn't to say they aren't nice, but they are definitely not part of Columbus.

Yes, this is true. But German Village, Victorian Village, and the short north are still all definitely nice parts of Columbus near downtown. And when I talk about 'Columbus', I think these other suburbs deserve to be included in the same conversation. Although they were never technically annexed, they're all part of the metro.

Broad Ripple and Irvington were once technically their own separate suburbs/villages at one point as well, but even if they were never annexed, I would think people would still refer to those areas as part of 'Indianapolis'. Same goes for the community of Crow's Nest up near Meridian and Kessler.