Japanese Internet vs. North American Internet

[Peregrine]

Originally Posted by KaaBoom

Yes, six thousand vs four thousand. So how do you rationalize 50% more density, justifying 1000% faster internet, at lower cost? Anyway I'm pretty sure that many parts of Toronto are actually more dense then Tokyo. A lot, if not most people in Toronto live in high-rise buildings. Tokyo is very densely built with very small homes and low to mid-rise buildings.

Come on now.
Toronto:


Look at all that greenspace outside the city.

Tokyo has no such thing. Just city as far as you can see.


Certainly looks more densely populated to me.

[KaaBoom]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

Come on now.
Toronto:


Look at all that greenspace outside the city.

Tokyo has no such thing. Just city as far as you can see.

100% wrong, obviously you have never been there. Tokyo has plenty of green-space right in the middle of the city. Plus it is surrounded by mountains and farm land outside the city.

Originally Posted by Peregrine

Certainly looks more densely populated to me.

You seem to see things the way you want to see them. Look at the building in your first picture, most all of them are about ten stories or less. The second picture is a zoom, that shows almost every single high-rise building in Tokyo, all the way to the mountains in the background. Even then most of those building are less then 50 stories tall. Most of the buildings in Downtown Toronto are between 50 and 75 stories tall. The CN Tower, until recently the tallest structure in the world is about 160 stories tall. For perspective Tokyo Tower is 333 meters tall. The CN Tower is 553.33 meters.

Again I understand that Tokyo has about 50% more density. Tokyo - Density = 5,847/km2, Toronto = 3,972/km2. But 50% more density is not a valid excuse for people in Tokyo to have ten times faster internet at a fraction of the price.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by KaaBoom

100% wrong, obviously you have never been there. Tokyo has plenty of green-space right in the middle of the city. Plus it is surrounded by mountains and farm land outside the city.
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Looking at Google maps they don't even look remotely close:



Tokyo: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...29,4.22699&z=9

Toronto: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=&q=to...62,4.22699&z=9

Note the scale is just slightly different but it's actually zoomed in closer to Montreal.

[KaaBoom]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

Looking at Google maps they don't even look remotely close:



Tokyo: tokyo - Google Maps

Toronto: toronto - Google Maps

Note the scale is just slightly different but it's actually zoomed in closer to Montreal.

Zoom in. Here let me help you. Both zoomed to the same level, 1000 ft. 200 m.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by KaaBoom

Zoom in. Here let me help you. Both zoomed to the same level, 1000 ft. 200 m.

LOL... but you can move the picture of Tokyo in any direction for 50 miles and it still looks the same... We're talking about population density and obviously the Tokyo area has huge amount of people living in and around the city compared to the Montreal area.

[Mach50]

77 dw / 12 up is amazing

I have ~ 20 dw / 5 up which is faster than most in America per speedtest.net and I think it is too slow!

[KaaBoom]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

LOL... but you can move the picture of Tokyo in any direction for 50 miles and it still looks the same... We're talking about population density and obviously the Tokyo area has huge amount of people living in and around the city compared to the Montreal area.

The first image showed Central Tokyo. Shinjuku an the left, Marunouchi on the right. Those on the two biggest commercial centers in Tokyo. 50 miles East or South you are Pacific Ocean. 50 miles North or West and you are high in the mountains. In between there is a lot of open farm land.

The second image is centered on Downtown Toronto. BTW Toronto does not equal Montreal. Just saying.

[thecoalman]

Zooming out even further NYC isn't even close, what is interesting to note about much of Japan is a lot of tightly clustered population areas mostly along the coast:

tokyo - Google Maps

new york - Google Maps

[Peregrine]

Originally Posted by KaaBoom

You seem to see things the way you want to see them.

No need to be rude. I am just making conversation.
Did I say I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG. No. Presenting one man's point of view. This is how adults have discussions.