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Old 01-07-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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It looks like existing methodologies have lost their efficacy.
A group of researchers collected and analyzed 82 new computer viruses and put them up against more than 40 antivirus products, made by top companies like Microsoft, Symantec, McAfee and Kaspersky Lab. The initial detection rate was less than 5 %.
Now they are trying a new approach: monitor access to servers, databases and files for suspicious activity, spot unusual behavior and clean up systems once they have been breached.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/te...0&ref=business
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It looks like existing methodologies have lost their efficacy.
A group of researchers collected and analyzed 82 new computer viruses and put them up against more than 40 antivirus products, made by top companies like Microsoft, Symantec, McAfee and Kaspersky Lab. The initial detection rate was less than 5 %.
Now they are trying a new approach: monitor access to servers, databases and files for suspicious activity, spot unusual behavior and clean up systems once they have been breached.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/te...0&ref=business
I believe the most popular program is Microsoft Essentials, or MSE.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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I believe the most popular program is Microsoft Essentials, or MSE.
Which is also the worst performing at preventing and cleanup:

//www.city-data.com/forum/compu...-loses-av.html
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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I believe the most popular program is Microsoft Essentials, or MSE.
Just because it's the most popular doesn't in any way mean it's a good product....
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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It looks like existing methodologies have lost their efficacy.
A group of researchers collected and analyzed 82 new computer viruses and put them up against more than 40 antivirus products, made by top companies like Microsoft, Symantec, McAfee and Kaspersky Lab. The initial detection rate was less than 5 %.
Now they are trying a new approach: monitor access to servers, databases and files for suspicious activity, spot unusual behavior and clean up systems once they have been breached.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/te...0&ref=business
Maybe they should start doing what one AV product did 25 years ago.

Checksum everything except data files....

Or make it mandatory to use SHA-2 on everything...
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:34 PM
 
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Maybe they should start doing what one AV product did 25 years ago.

Checksum everything except data files....
Checksum wouldn't be sufficient. An author would be smart enough to fake the checksum.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Maybe they should start doing what one AV product did 25 years ago.

Checksum everything except data files....

Or make it mandatory to use SHA-2 on everything...
Yeah, Thunderbyte AV used to do that. Wonderful program suite. Think it eventually move to a 32-bit CRC, but same idea.

I think it's a good idea, tho.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:18 PM
 
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I'm missing the point of the article. I've not had a virus, Trojan, spyware, malware, etc for at least a decade.

It seems my AV is working fine.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:34 PM
 
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"Now they are trying a new approach: monitor access to servers, databases and files for suspicious activity, spot unusual behavior and clean up systems once they have been breached."

<sigh> One more nail in the coffin of independent programmers. What that translates to is "whitelist our products, and the ones we like" and then you hear in the background the whispered "send up warning flags on anything else, so we can drive them out of business."

It really is CLASSIC end game behavior to eliminate competition. Look at the number of companies making automobiles in the 1930s compared to now. Yes, the Federal rules are stricter, but that wasn't always the case. The idea was to squeeze the small players out of the markets, and it (as usual) worked. Computer operating systems are becoming even more police state than the U.S..
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:05 PM
 
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I don't know if other Antivirus software has this but I like Norton Insight. It uses a community to maintain a whitelist.
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