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Old 11-20-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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It blocks Google ads on my site, 1 to 3 per page depending on the amount of content. 1 ad if you are logged in....still blocked....


About 15 years ago I think it was Norton with one of the first adblockers was blocking images on one of my sites . Why? They were in a folder called banners and they had nothing to do with advertising. Moving them out of the folder called banners unblocked them. The same thing applies today. Adblocker depends on consistency, they can easily block Google ads because they know the source. Direct ads on my site are not affected because it has no idea it's an ad and if they happen to figure it out I'll simply adjust.


If I wish to show you ads you will see ads. It's not a question of if I can force ads onto you, it's a question of whether I want to.
Seriously - just how are you going to do that? The only way would be not to run interactive ads at all.

If people were doing that - running only non-interactive ads, no videos or music bull**** (links are ok as long as it is MY option to click or not) I would be fine with ads (as long as they're not violent or porn).

As long as they aren't overlaid, that's another bull**** move I won't tolerate. As another poster said, run them down the side or along the top and bottom. I don't even mind if they're interspersed through the text (block of text, silent ad, block of text, silent ad etc).

But NOOOOOO. Greedy website owners want to shove crappy ads for crap I would never even consider buying (or even looking at) into my face at full volume. I've stumbled across sites that load ad after ad after ad after ad - sometimes SIMULTANEOUSLY so its just total pandemonium and you can't understand what any of them are trying to sell even if you wanted to.

I have seen things in ads that I had never seen before and wish I could unsee. Really nasty perverted stuff, porn or violence or porn AND violence. There is NO WAY I will ever run any browser without an effective ad blocker. EVER.

I blacklist aggressive ad sites entirely. FamilyHandyman.com is blocked because they buy aggressive obnoxious ads that have rarely gotten through my filters. I have a slew of aggressive advertisers who are blocked, and I also block sites that allow those types of ads.

Screw me JUST ONCE and you are blacklisted forever.

Maybe you CAN "force" me to watch ads - but I guarandamntee you it will only be the once. I will kill the browser through the Task Manager if I have to - and sometimes I have had to. The ONLY time I ever get a virus through my web browser is from somebody's s*itty ad.
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Old 11-20-2017, 06:48 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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We don't. Go ahead and try to block my adblocker - I'll just blacklist your site anyway.
Can you recommend something that would allow me to blacklist a site in my own browser? I don't want to tell others not to go there, but there are some sites out there with interesting names, and no value whatsoever. Something like a "bookmarks of bad sites" that would black out (or reverse the colors) of sites you previously decide you never want to waste time with again.

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I do feel sorry for newspapers. I would LOVE to subscribe to some of them - but I WANT PAPER COPIES and they only want to let me look at online content.
LoL! I have a similar problem with a couple of news papers I want paper copies of. The will print them, but they want an arm and a leg, and I just spent my last leg. So, for them, I turn off my add blocker before reading them, since they are smart enough not to have obtrusive and annoying adds. Sometimes I even click on the adds, just to give them revenue.
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Old 11-20-2017, 06:54 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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You are the one coming in my front door as a guest and expect to be able to rearrange the furniture to your tastes.
No, that would be the sites I went through the code on, found what I wanted, and downloaded the article surgically to my hard drive. Wouldn't have done that, but he violated our agreement.
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Old 11-20-2017, 06:55 PM
 
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That's stupid, you can't force people to look at your site without regard to user preferences.
I very much consider my users needs and wants, I get compliments all the time and never hear complaints about ads. T


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I strongly doubt there is ANYTHING on your site that I care about anyway.
Probably not because it's a niche, but if you are interested in the topic you will find yourself there.
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:06 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I very much consider my users needs and wants, I get compliments all the time and never hear complaints about ads. T
Yours, then, is one of those sites were all you would have to do is ask, and I would turn off the ad blocker for your site.

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Probably not because it's a niche, but if you are interested in the topic you will find yourself there.
A lot of people think I am the guy who crash landed at Carbon Creek, PA back in the 50's. You don't have anything about that, do you?
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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Seriously - just how are you going to do that? The only way would be not to run interactive ads at all.
When you have direct advertisers like I have there is a ridiculous amount of options on the table because the adblocker cannot profile the ads easily.



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As long as they aren't overlaid, that's another bull**** move I won't tolerate.
For example if I wanted to be a real ******* I can do a CSS overlay that can only be closed with javascript that includes the ad code. Thus if you are blocking the ad script you are also blocking the means to view the page.




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I have seen things in ads that I had never seen before and wish I could unsee. Really nasty perverted stuff, porn or violence or porn AND violence. There is NO WAY I will ever run any browser without an effective ad blocker. EVER.
If you are seeing ad like that I would suggest you need to make a better selection of the websites you are viewing. The top tier ad networks are selective about the sites they allow ads on and certainly do not show ads like that.


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I will kill the browser through the Task Manager if I have to
You won't ever run into this issue on my site, the back button will suffice.
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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A lot of people think I am the guy who crash landed at Carbon Creek, PA back in the 50's. You don't have anything about that, do you?
Carbon is close (had to look that up, not Trekkie), it's for homeowners that want to use coal for home heating. It just underwent some major changes and still rough around the edges.


https://coalpail.com/fuel-comparison...r-home-heating

0 ads on that page. If you want to have a little fun you can get rough estimate of what it would cost to burn money to heat your house at the bottom.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:07 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Carbon is close (had to look that up, not Trekkie), it's for homeowners that want to use coal for home heating. It just underwent some major changes and still rough around the edges.
Actually I do advocate that. Grew up on a corporate farm with a potbellied stove in one of the shops where we worked on stuff, and we burned coal in it. Also, it makes the Environmental whacko's crazy to think of millions of us heating our homes with bituminous, or better, lignite

So it is possible I might come across your site.

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https://coalpail.com/fuel-comparison...r-home-heating

0 ads on that page. If you want to have a little fun you can get rough estimate of what it would cost to burn money to heat your house at the bottom.
Thanks, I will check it out, and if I ever arrive at your site (and know it is your site, I will exclude your site from blocking, because you seem to be sincere about what you do. Understand, of course, there are sites whose ads are predatory, and that is why we have blockers.

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Old 11-21-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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There is plenty of sites out there with a reasonable amount of ads, the problem is the adblocker blocking ads on those sites as well.



Nearly all of the sites I see with an obnoxious amounts of ads are crap to begin with, e.g. click bait "See what these celebrities look like now".
Those are good points. It’s true that the good guys sometimes suffer because of the bad guys. If it truly is better I will stop using it.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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I use an adblocker, simply because many ads are still loud and obnoxious. Although they aren't as bad as they were bad in the 90s or early 2000s they can still be bad. If a site asks me to whitelist it I will as long as I don't get autoplaying ads with the volume maxed out or ads that take up the whole screen, both of which still exist. If that happens you go on the blacklist forever. If content producers dislike adblockers then perhaps they should ask the companies that deliver said ads to dial it back a notch or two. Frankly that's not my problem, that's their problem and I don't want to see it or deal with it.
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