Before I go into my list of rebuttals, let me just say wow. The main piece of this thread is just ridiculous.
Takeahike, please look at what you've posted, and verify if it makes sense. Because, most of what you've posted is fairly incoherent.
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Originally Posted by TakeAhike
In 'That' forum, which shall remain anonymous, posters seemed to have the emotional maturity/morality of incorrigible middle school students. As a middle school teacher I don't really enjoy adults with that sort of 'Humor'.
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Unlike a classroom, where you have to take things like that seriously, because of the fact that we're forced to be there, and that steps have to be taken for that because we're REQUIRED to be in Middle school...
you are NOT forced to be a part of a forum. You are NOT forced to read the posts on that forum. Thus, you CAN NOT force someone to post in a certain way on a forum. If you don't like it, you can leave.
In the same way, you cannot force someone to post using real credentials. Theres no basis for it. Why? So you can track them down for cyber harrassment on a forum? Oh, well... here's the solution. You can a) take it to the moderators, who will hopefully take action. if they don't, you can then b) leave the forum.
In a classroom, you have the option of a) taking it to the teacher, and then b) well, you can't leave. So, thats where it becomes important that you know who's causing the problems.
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Originally Posted by TakeAhike
You have convinced me--I will vote for my tax dollars to go to law enforcement and to build more prisons.
Go CuCullin!
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Yeah! One good thought! Because our prisons ARE overcrowded, and we DO need the extra space.
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You can talk about defining your own 'morality' as long as you want and it comes back to living in a nation of laws. quote]
What does living in a nation of laws have to do with the WORLD WIDE WEB?
It is an international system, that for the most part you won't know if the person on the other side is posting 20 feet away, or 20000 miles away.
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Originally Posted by TakeAhike
11thhour said
<In the end, it's a ridiculous idea. What makes the internet such a useful and powerful tool is its ability stimulate the sharing of ideas and information, whether you agree with them or not. To stifle those, which this bill would ultimately do, is like neutering the internet. No thanks, I don't need the gov't to babysit me and decide what's best for me. >
I agree.
CuCullin does not approve of my previous remarks but I will ask again.
When the 'Sharing of ideas and information' results in bullying, harassment, death or damage to property what can be done?
Of course, individuals must protect themselves.
I no longer feel that I can freely discuss relocation in my local forums. Nor do I feel safe expressing an opinion on most other topics.
I don't want the government to monitor my life but I would like to know that there are consequences for those who abuse the internet.
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Yeah, people need to protect themselves. Protecting yourself is about NOT giving personal information, and safeguarding those things.
You say you want to be secure, but then you say that you want the government to regulate who uses the internet.
And heres the thing... the people who are out there to cause trouble, to steal identies and cause mayhem are generally the people with the skills to avoid posting their personal information. As a matter of fact, they may steal YOUR information and post, and cause you a bunch of problems.
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Originally Posted by TakeAhike
Then I have to wonder why the FBI and those who specialize in web forensics advise online posters to exercise extreme caution.
-What goes on on the internet can/does invade real life.
-You can 'TELL' me differently until the cows come home if you like.
Off to reread FAQ's on posting guidelines. Few in these forums use obscenities in any form. Maybe some have 'special' priveleges.
cough--thick as a brick
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Yeah, they advise people to exercise extreme caution. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T REGULATE THE WEB! Not only that, the cyber terror laws, and such don't protect you from forums, etc. They are designed to protect you from people planting viruses, taking down websites and stealing credit card and personal information.
That poster, for instance, CuCillun if he was abusive and rude... your ONLY recourse is to talk to the moderators of the forum. Or you can leave the forum. Think of the forum as a public park, where people can come and go as they wish. Because of this, you can't regulate what someone says. Freedom of speech and all that.
[quote=Brill;3193536]It's all pretty pointless without a way to authenticate the information a person registers with is accurate.
People take the internet way too seriously and expect the government to regulate it because people get their feelings hurt.[/quote]
QFT.
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