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Old 05-11-2020, 12:00 PM
 
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I think Jitsi is for personal use within families and small groups.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:03 PM
 
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I think Jitsi is for personal use within families and small groups.

A quick check says it's open source and released under the Apache license which means anyone can use it however they wish including modifying the code for their own version. They may even be able to sell it, not sure what the specific of the copyright entails but it's usually used the other way around to limit capitalization. e.g. you may be able to sell it once but whoever you sell it to has all original licensing transferred to them allowing to give it away.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:07 PM
 
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You do understand of course that it's not the app that Zoom wants...it's the expertise of the team.
You do not understand that Keybase users want the app, not Zoom. It's Keybase users that are getting the short end of the stick here. A perfectly good app ruined.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:47 PM
 
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You do not understand that Keybase users want the app, not Zoom. It's Keybase users that are getting the short end of the stick here. A perfectly good app ruined.
Well, blame Keybase management. It’s a private company so they didn’t have to sell to Zoom.
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Old 05-12-2020, 04:15 AM
 
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And Leo LaPorte said people don't like change so they will stick with Zoom even if Jitsi is much better.
You have a link to a comparison, or an explanation of his reasons for stating that? Or is he just stating his opinion? Zoom is working well for us. I will look at others, but I need more than a statement “x is better than zoom”. I would like to see objective comparisons of features.
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Old 05-12-2020, 06:53 AM
 
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https://beebom.com/best-zoom-alternatives/
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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Well, blame Keybase management. It’s a private company so they didn’t have to sell to Zoom.
Why would anyone blame management? Managers at a company don't own the company and broker such deals. Have you ever worked for a company before?

Do you think Andreessen Horowitz is actually on payroll?

This isn't about blame. Another poster simply pointed out that security experts have brought up concerns around the industry leading security company being purchased by a video company with a lack of concern for security -- until it hit the press.
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Old 05-12-2020, 03:27 PM
 
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Why would anyone blame management? Managers at a company don't own the company and broker such deals. Have you ever worked for a company before?

Do you think Andreessen Horowitz is actually on payroll?

This isn't about blame. Another poster simply pointed out that security experts have brought up concerns around the industry leading security company being purchased by a video company with a lack of concern for security -- until it hit the press.
Not only have I "worked for a company before" but have done tech M&A on the sell and buy side. I said management not "managers".

Keybase had ~25 employees with an annual revenue estimated at around $1.5M, and got their Series A in 2015. As I haven't seen any additional funding rounds it's possible they were running out of cash, or were struggling against their competition.

As the terms of the deal weren't made public, I'm going to assume it was under $50M. Maybe much less.

As to Andreessen, I'm 100% sure had the company been ready for a Series B or if this was a unicorn in the making they wouldn't have sold out. So perhaps nobody had a choice, and had they not sold they might have folded.
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Old 05-13-2020, 01:35 AM
 
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Not only have I "worked for a company before" but have done tech M&A on the sell and buy side. I said management not "managers".

Keybase had ~25 employees with an annual revenue estimated at around $1.5M, and got their Series A in 2015. As I haven't seen any additional funding rounds it's possible they were running out of cash, or were struggling against their competition.

As the terms of the deal weren't made public, I'm going to assume it was under $50M. Maybe much less.

As to Andreessen, I'm 100% sure had the company been ready for a Series B or if this was a unicorn in the making they wouldn't have sold out. So perhaps nobody had a choice, and had they not sold they might have folded.
What does "management" of Keybase have to do with anything? Also, Andreessen was not actively managing the company. Management doesn't make the decision around selling the company. It looks like you're claiming to have more M&A knowledge than you do.

Back on topic here. There's lots of good alternatives to zoom. Facetime and Meet are great as well. Don't get all hyped about the keybase purchase. Zoom's management hasn't changed.
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Old 05-14-2020, 05:28 AM
 
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That's a nice review but doesn't get into the details enough. We already use Zoom, so we want to see a more detailed comparison. We'll probably just have to do it ourselves.
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