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Old 02-26-2009, 04:59 AM
 
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And everything that the site you are connected to wants to do, such as harvest your email address. IE (all versions) run ActiveX by default, you are not in control of your browser, it is a major security flaw.
I still wonder why I've never had any problems at all with it despite everyones prediction of doom if you don't switch to firefox
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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I still wonder why I've never had any problems
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The recent spate of ActiveX vulnerabilities has led the US Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT) to recommend that users disable all ActiveX controls. Vulnerabilities have been disclosed in ActiveX controls in the Facebook and MySpace social network sites and Yahoo! Messenger, Instant Messenger and Music Jukebox media player. Internet Explorer users can disable ActiveX controls by setting the browser's security level to "high."
SANS Institute - SANS NewsBites

People are free to be as reckless as they choose. Most make the choice through a thorough lack of knowledge.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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yet

SANS Institute - SANS NewsBites

People are free to be as reckless as they choose. Most make the choice through a thorough lack of knowledge.
Yet? You mean after 15 years of use with no problems that still isn't enough to convince you that IE isn't as bad as you and the other firefox fanboys claim? Give me a break.

Maybe you need to adjust your surfing habits and apply a bit more common sense rather than blaming the web browser for your troubles.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:55 AM
 
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Yet? You mean after 15 years of use with no problems that still isn't enough to convince you that IE isn't as bad as you and the other firefox fanboys claim? Give me a break.

Maybe you need to adjust your surfing habits and apply a bit more common sense rather than blaming the web browser for your troubles.
There you go, an anonymous "expert" in NH, that has been using IE longer than IE has actually existed, and his vast knowledge and expertise trumps the recommendation of SANS, the most trusted & by far the largest source for information security training, certification & research in the world.

OBTW Dave, where I go on the internet is NOYFB, and for the record I have never had a problem and my common sense is fine. In fact common sense tells me to listen to security experts than some anonymous Dave in NH, simply because I don't know his credentials, other than he doesn't like FF. Enjoy your IE bloatware, I'll stick with FF which is much more powerful, feature packed, and customizable.

I also tightly control Java, another serious security flaw, using FF NoScript addon that gives me control of which sites I allow to execute code on my computers, not M$ or some random site. But if your world consists solely of surfing microsoft.com, then I guess none of this is necessary.

I was also using Mosaic before IE existed, and everything was text based.

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Old 02-26-2009, 11:18 AM
 
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But if your world consists solely of surfing microsoft.com, then I guess none of this is necessary.
None of this is necessary period, if you know how to manage your system. And BTW, IE 1.0 was officially released with Windows 95, which I tested, this is 2009, if you can't do the math that's 14 years, plus the beta time gets us to 15.

I can find plenty of sites that claim FF is crap, so all your praise for it is nothing but opinion.

I really don't give a flyin rats a$$ what you or anyone uses for a web browser, but trying to push your opinion on people as fact helps no one, and calling someone reckless for there choice of web browser just shows how much you only think you know.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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I really don't give a flyin rats a$$ what you or anyone uses for a web browser, but trying to push your opinion on people as fact helps no one, and calling someone reckless for there choice of web browser just shows how much you only think you know.
Gosh, I express my opinion, and back that opinion up with facts from security experts. You have supported your opinion with what?

Not sure when ActiveX was included (don't really care) in IE, but in the text only based world of the internet of the early and mid 90's it wasn't an issue, and the threats were nonexistent to minimal at best.

Please feel free to list your network security certifications here.
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Somehow I get the feeling you guys aren't going to resolve this anytime soon . . .

By the way, Opera's a good browser that doesn't get enough recognition. It's even a smaller download than FF, although I don't think you can do quite as much to disable java and block ads.

I don't mind most ads - it's how websites can afford to provide content, after all, but some are really annoying.
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Old 02-26-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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My annoyance with Opera, but primarily with Apple is their philosophy of attempting to install it on computers that use iTunes. The wife didn't pay enough attention to an iTunes update and it also installed Opera, which hosed Windows. 3 hours later I got Opera extracted and Windows working again.
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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I think you mean Safari. Opera has nothing to do with Apple.

I agree about Safari; it's annoying that Apple bundles it with iTunes.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:18 PM
 
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I think you mean Safari. Opera has nothing to do with Apple.

I agree about Safari; it's annoying that Apple bundles it with iTunes.
Oops my bad, it was Safari that hosed her laptop.
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