Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics > Investing
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-23-2011, 08:12 AM
 
1,475 posts, read 2,556,003 times
Reputation: 670

Advertisements

I haven't been watching the numbers closely. But, I think today is the first day of the double dip.

Since we're in a depression I don't know if a double dip even matters.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-23-2011, 12:06 PM
 
2,714 posts, read 4,281,921 times
Reputation: 1314
Going down because Obama released 60 Million Barrels of Oil from the emergency reserves
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 12:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
31,771 posts, read 40,698,345 times
Reputation: 24590
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclone8570 View Post
Going down because Obama released 60 Million Barrels of Oil from the emergency reserves
the guy is a moron. what is that going to do exactly? a short term dip in the price then it will quickly move back up. its not going to help him come election time. you need long term solutions to the oil issue not releasing some oil from a stockpile.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
7,943 posts, read 17,254,198 times
Reputation: 4686
Being that we never recovered from the first crash I say we are not in a double dip but a continued depression. We are now going into our 43rd month of recession, compare that to 1982 when we were in recovery after about 16 months. There is no hope in sight for the near future. The only thing we can hope for is that we avoid complete societal collapse such as what is threatening Greece.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 12:24 PM
 
8,263 posts, read 12,198,208 times
Reputation: 4801
So you guys are expecting negative economic growth for Q3 and Q4? GDP down?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
 
6,385 posts, read 11,886,305 times
Reputation: 6874
Quote:
Originally Posted by slackjaw View Post
So you guys are expecting negative economic growth for Q3 and Q4? GDP down?
You think these people care about numbers? Even if the economy is reported to grow 5% they would just claim its all a big lie and conspiracy. They have decided if anyone doesn't buy into their view of the world then that person is just ignorant or a puppet of the conspiracy.

Pretty funny we've got people calling recessions by the day now. Like it matters. I'd like to see where he cashes his winning ticket for that prediction.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 02:49 PM
 
7,214 posts, read 9,394,916 times
Reputation: 7803
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich_CD View Post
I haven't been watching the numbers closely. But, I think today is the first day of the double dip.

Since we're in a depression I don't know if a double dip even matters.
So if we revisit three months from now and you are wrong, what then?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: NJ
31,771 posts, read 40,698,345 times
Reputation: 24590
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy702 View Post
You think these people care about numbers? Even if the economy is reported to grow 5% they would just claim its all a big lie and conspiracy. They have decided if anyone doesn't buy into their view of the world then that person is just ignorant or a puppet of the conspiracy.

Pretty funny we've got people calling recessions by the day now. Like it matters. I'd like to see where he cashes his winning ticket for that prediction.
i care a lot about numbers. i love numbers. i like gdp numbers but i also like unemployment numbers, government spending numbers, inflation numbers, etc. etc. etc.

keep getting you numbers from obama and you will be very surprised when the truth hits you in the face.

i believe first quarter 2011 gdp growth was 1.8%. how much did government spending go up? how about inflation over that period (not including housing prices)? how about unemployment numbers (accounting for the fact that there are constantly people entering the workforce)? obama recently said we have created 2.1 million jobs in the last 15 months (laughed at by the audience). that not only conveniently starts at the bottom point of unemployment but its still a net loss over that 15 months when you consider new members of the workforce.

you need a certain amount of growth just to maintain current levels and 1.8% isnt going to cut it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 03:11 PM
 
6,385 posts, read 11,886,305 times
Reputation: 6874
1.8% isn't a good number, but its no depression either. As bad as things seemed to be in 2008 and 2009 life still went on. People still did the same things just at lower levels. The streets weren't empty and the world didn't go to black and white. When people say we are in a depression its just pathetic on the common sense level, but even worse is how people start to act when they believe such nonsense. A slow economy is not a recession or depression, why think so lightly about throwing those terms out there? Does it somehow make one feel better to say everything is crappy?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-23-2011, 05:07 PM
 
12,671 posts, read 23,808,210 times
Reputation: 2666
We are neither in a recession nor depression.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics > Investing
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:04 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top