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Old 01-18-2016, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Concord, CA
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There was one big theme that formed the backbone of the presentations – global growth is no longer enough to service global debt. Creditors will have to take losses. Translated this means the banks that lent the most money with the least amount of reserves may go bust.

Albert Edwards Societe Generale's 'Woodstock for Bears' financial crisis prediction - Business Insider

Looks like another bubble burst.
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Old 01-18-2016, 07:30 AM
 
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More doom & gloom from the doomsday department. He predicted a bloodbath in 2010 and that the world would enter another recession a few months later.

Stock markets face a 'bloodbath', warns SocGen strategist Albert Edwards - Telegraph

Another prediction in 2011 that the S&P was going to 400.

ALBERT EDWARDS: Everyone Is Still Way Too Optimistic, And The S&P Is Going To Lose 65% - Business Insider

Technical indicators are useless if you can't grasp the fundamentals of how they influence other sectors of the economy. He's a bear because he's a goldbug, not because he understands anything.
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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There was one big theme that formed the backbone of the presentations – global growth is no longer enough to service global debt. Creditors will have to take losses. Translated this means the banks that lent the most money with the least amount of reserves may go bust.

Albert Edwards Societe Generale's 'Woodstock for Bears' financial crisis prediction - Business Insider

Looks like another bubble burst.
Lots of discussion about this on the economics forum. Join in.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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More doom & gloom from the doomsday department. He predicted a bloodbath in 2010 and that the world would enter another recession a few months later.

Stock markets face a 'bloodbath', warns SocGen strategist Albert Edwards - Telegraph

Another prediction in 2011 that the S&P was going to 400.

ALBERT EDWARDS: Everyone Is Still Way Too Optimistic, And The S&P Is Going To Lose 65% - Business Insider

Technical indicators are useless if you can't grasp the fundamentals of how they influence other sectors of the economy. He's a bear because he's a goldbug, not because he understands anything.
Another perpetual bear prognosticator.. *yawn*
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Old 01-19-2016, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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More doom and gloom. The bottom line is that we have hit a soft spot. There is no proof that we are heading into a recession.

Furthermore the stock market crashes when there is irrational bullishness. Right now there's too many bears for a market crash to occur. In fact near term doom and gloom is ALREADY priced into the market. Selling now would be like reacting to news AFTER the news has already occurred. That won't make you money.
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:37 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Asia market is down again. When I've heard hedge fund managers said to get out of China, back in 2014, I sold my shares in the next rally and got out of international funds in 2015. International markets are still down.
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Old 01-20-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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More doom and gloom. The bottom line is that we have hit a soft spot. There is no proof that we are heading into a recession.

Furthermore the stock market crashes when there is irrational bullishness. Right now there's too many bears for a market crash to occur. In fact near term doom and gloom is ALREADY priced into the market. Selling now would be like reacting to news AFTER the news has already occurred. That won't make you money.
Valuations are too lofty without a reasonable expectation for growth. Low growth will not cause a crash, but it makes one ask... Is it worth the risk to hold stocks when they are already at their highs?

I don't think the risk is justified. Not at these price points. I said the same thing last year, sold my positions, and it saved me from taking real loses. Plenty of people do good in the stock market when they follow their intuition.
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