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Old 04-14-2015, 09:14 AM
 
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Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm looking at my IRA and thinking about taking a portion of it to buy a share of commercial property that yields 8% ROI. I would not physically own the property, just receive a K-1/partnership status. Since I don't need the money for 30 years I figure 8% is a good safe yield with potential upside with rental increases or if the property gets sold some day.

What say ye investment gurus?
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:37 AM
 
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I would never .

You lose all the benefits of owning real estate , no depreciation , no special long term capital gain rates , no passing on tax free to heirs.

Difficult to get a mortgage and use leverage and if you need money for repairs it cannot come from outside the ira.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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I would never .

You lose all the benefits of owning real estate , no depreciation , no special long term capital gain rates , no passing on tax free to heirs.

Difficult to get a mortgage and use leverage and if you need money for repairs it cannot come from outside the ira.
Leverage shouldn't make it more valuable, given the Modigliani-Miller theorem. You get the same benefit by giving up fixed income holdings, and the interest you forgo is usually below a mortgage rate anyway.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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The biggest danger is needing more money to support the property at times.

To risky when dealing with tenants as far as needing to cover at times. No many lost benefits as well like capital gains rates and depreciation.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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The biggest danger is needing more money to support the property at times.

To risky when dealing with tenants as far as needing to cover at times. No many lost benefits as well like capital gains rates and depreciation.
How much of a buffer would you recommend?
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:59 PM
 
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Can't say , i just would never do it.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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Default yield with no headache

Let me clarify further. As a k-1 investor I don't physically own the commercial real estate. i am not responsible for repairs. I just receive a check every quarter with a nice dividend.

Advantages:
I am able to buy into a large piece of commercial real estate which I couldn't normally own. This particular shopping center I am buying into cost 10 million
Good Dividend
Lease Increases every year
Capital Gain if capital partner decides to sell
No renter headaches
Easy tax filing

Disadvantage:
My money is tied up for a long time
I don't have control of the property

My goal is simply to get a better yield.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:08 AM
 
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are you talking a mlp? that is a different issue than just buying real estate on your own..
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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I'd do it if I had a significant IRA. The 8% just goes back into the IRA for deferred taxes.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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Let me clarify further. As a k-1 investor I don't physically own the commercial real estate. i am not responsible for repairs. I just receive a check every quarter with a nice dividend.

Advantages:
I am able to buy into a large piece of commercial real estate which I couldn't normally own. This particular shopping center I am buying into cost 10 million
Good Dividend
Lease Increases every year
Capital Gain if capital partner decides to sell
No renter headaches
Easy tax filing

Disadvantage:
My money is tied up for a long time
I don't have control of the property

My goal is simply to get a better yield.
Your IRA is tied up anyways. There is usually some type of provision to get some of your money out. The grade of the investment really depends on the management team. It it just like buying stock in a company. You really don't want control of the property and don't expect them to ever sell. As far as control of the property, can you comprehend controlling a 10mil property, I'll pass and hire professionals.
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