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Old 01-29-2024, 06:43 AM
 
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How do you figure they haven't corrected? A correction is a move of 10-20%. The 10-year fell from 5% to 3.75%. It then rose over 10% from 3.75-3.78% (roughly) to 4.17-4.18 (recent peak). On top of that, the bottom was hit weeks ago and it has consolidated around 4.15%. Clearly, the trend for the time being is higher, not lower, at least short term. Long term we have no idea what will happen.
that applies to asset values and is a correction

when rates correct it means they shifted direction and go the opposite way to correct the fact where they were was wrong for the economic environment

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Old 01-30-2024, 11:08 AM
 
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that applies to asset values and is a correction

when rates correct it means they shifted direction and go the opposite way to correct the fact where they were was wrong for the economic environment

I'm pretty sure that's what actually happened.
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Old 02-16-2024, 06:47 AM
 
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This morning, some surprise numbers:
  • January PPI (inflation @ wholesale level) Up 0.3% (expected 0.1%). A 0.3% monthly rate is equivalent to an annual 3.65%.
  • Core PPI (Ex food & energy) up .5% (expected up .1%). A 0.5% monthly rate is equivalent to an annual 6.17%
  • Ex food, energy & trade: up .6% very hot - equivalent to an annual 7.444%

Even the doves @ The Fed should be taken aback by the inflation numbers.

Then there are some housing data:
  • Housing Starts: down 15% -- a massive miss, but most of that is for multifamily housing.
  • Single family homes starts down 4.7%
The housing data appears to indicate builders are expecting interest rates to stay higher for longer.

As a Friday morning quarterback, I think the fed paused their increase of rates too soon - one more rate hike last year would have been appropriate.

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Old 02-16-2024, 09:44 AM
 
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It all comes down to HOUSING in the end.

Any talk of battling inflation without addressing housing is doomed to fail.
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Old 02-22-2024, 06:36 AM
 
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Initial jobless claims released this morning: 201K vs. an estimate of 216K

Continuing jobless claims are down 27K


Hindsight is 20-20, of course; it looks like the Fed ought to have raised rates one more time last year.
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Old 02-23-2024, 08:09 PM
 
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Initial jobless claims released this morning: 201K vs. an estimate of 216K

Continuing jobless claims are down 27K


Hindsight is 20-20, of course; it looks like the Fed ought to have raised rates one more time last year.
Absolutely, but since they didn't, there's no time like the present. It will take some cajónes to do it, but it should be done ASAP. Rather than the stock market cooling off, it appears to be getting hotter. Likewise, unemployment is near all-time lows and getting lower.

If the Fed doesn't raise rates VERY soon, then consumer inflation will get even worse before the election.

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Old 02-23-2024, 09:10 PM
 
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Absolutely, but since they didn't, there's no time like the present. It will take some cajónes to do it, but it should be done ASAP.
I agree - especially with the incredible performance of the stock market led by NVDIA & SMIC and reflected in QQQ and the S&P 500 -- the "wealth effect" will kick in as retail investors look at the value of their portfolios and start spending money again.

But like it or not, some of the voting members of the Fed are quite political, such as Austan Goolsbee who is President of the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank (and on the faculty of the University of Chicago Booth School of Business). Goolsbee is a very bright economist, but he is a perma-dove when it comes to monetary policy, and it is very clear he has a horse in the race when it comes to the Presidential Election and he wants the economy to support his preferred candidate.

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Goolsbee has been a research fellow at the American Bar Foundation; research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research; and a member of the Panel of Economic Advisors to the Congressional Budget Office. He was previously named a Senior Economist to the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI) and a Distinguished Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austan_Goolsbee#Academia

And, of course, he was on President Obama's Council of Economic Advisors, ultimately becoming its chair.

There is no way, heading into an election, he would do anything to put a damper on the economy. Of course, he only has one vote, but he can be persuasive.
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Old 02-23-2024, 10:49 PM
 
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A .75 increase.
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Old 02-24-2024, 03:13 AM
 
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yesterday the president of the New York Fed called last week’s inflation data a mere “bump,” and predicted that interest rates would start to fall later this year (no date was provided, of course!)

minutes from the last Fed meeting indicates that its members are concerned over prematurely cutting rates.

there are plenty of signs that the economy remains strong , especially the tight labor market.
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Old 02-24-2024, 04:09 AM
 
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Hopefully it remains strong until November 4th. God save us.
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