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Considering the low interest paid on savings accounts it seems to me that it's a better plan to just spend the money on any commodities you can store and sell later. The overvalued stock market and its overpaid brokers is another bad situation. You could even do better investing in junk cars!
Copper might be the "best" metal to invest in right now, due to it's still relatively low price (it takes a lot of liquidity to buy significant amounts of glod/silver). Copper is also certainly becoming more scarce.
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Copper is certainly on the raise, esp in Socal. Theives are taking the stuff from conduits and selling them at a good price. Copper is certainly getting into that "scarce" chapter. Maybe from the American sprawl. But precious medals and commodities are not for the faint of heart. Sure, they're rising. But the innitial sticker shock will drive the less seasoned buyers running. But, hey, try it out. For long term, it's a good investment. Shop around. See what the US and Canadian mint has to offer. I Think the Canadians' gold supply goes through a different process which is more extensive than any other country. But I have been wrong. But they are truly beautiful!
Considering the low interest paid on savings accounts it seems to me that it's a better plan to just spend the money on any commodities you can store and sell later. The overvalued stock market and its overpaid brokers is another bad situation. You could even do better investing in junk cars!
No idea why an investor would conclude that about stocks, when you can make money as a stock decreases in value. Care to elaborate?
Back towards were this thread started -- If you are going to be digging and bury anything in your backyard, or elsewhere, make it a seed.
Feed yourself and family and neighbors.
Especially down there in Florida. Food practically pushes itself out of the ground from what I recall.
Food is going up into almost comical levels. Was down at the store today and walking by the produce section. Since I am looking at starting this electric farm project, I have been tracking prices pretty close, and noticed a lot of folks looking things over real close, but no so much loading up and buying.
Some folks that caught my eye -- Old Black couple are looking at the Green Bell Peppers.
Him: Are these what you need?
Her: (looking at list) Yeah, Green Bell Peppers
Him: hmmm, ok, they are a buck forty nine.
Her: (real loud voice) A DOLLAR AND FORTY NICE CENTS FOR A BELL PEPPER ?!?!?
Him: huumm-huh.
Her: We don't need no Bell Pepper for a dollar forty nine, TODAY!
You could hear them over the entire produce section.
Whole section of the store started laughing. Me, too.
Back towards were this thread started -- If you are going to be digging and bury anything in your backyard, or elsewhere, make it a seed.
Feed yourself and family and neighbors.
Especially down there in Florida. Food practically pushes itself out of the ground from what I recall.
Food is going up into almost comical levels. Was down at the store today and walking by the produce section. Since I am looking at starting this electric farm project, I have been tracking prices pretty close, and noticed a lot of folks looking things over real close, but no so much loading up and buying.
Some folks that caught my eye -- Old Black couple are looking at the Green Bell Peppers.
Him: Are these what you need?
Her: (looking at list) Yeah, Green Bell Peppers
Him: hmmm, ok, they are a buck forty nine.
Her: (real loud voice) A DOLLAR AND FORTY NICE CENTS FOR A BELL PEPPER ?!?!?
Him: huumm-huh.
Her: We don't need no Bell Pepper for a dollar forty nine, TODAY!
You could hear them over the entire produce section.
Whole section of the store started laughing. Me, too.
$4!7 is real!
what is a electrical farm? Will you be incorporating hydroponics?
what is a electrical farm? Will you be incorporating hydroponics?
I think you asked me that before in some thread, but I lost it before I sent a note back. Sorry. Hydroponics are fine by me, but do not have to be the prime feature. Basic idea is take anything that presently uses carbon fuel on a farmstead and power electrically, instead.
Why not just keep the Diesel tractor and convert it to run on wood gas or just make Diesel from algae? As for home growing of food, I can't. There is no water here and very little available land. Perhaps after I move to a rural area and start a new garden. Florida is an excellent place to grow food as long as you keep the bugs in check.
Why not just keep the Diesel tractor and convert it to run on wood gas or just make Diesel from algae? As for home growing of food, I can't. There is no water here and very little available land. Perhaps after I move to a rural area and start a new garden. Florida is an excellent place to grow food as long as you keep the bugs in check.
For my own taste, wood gas is too toxic -- from Wiki (they have a pretty fair write up on it) >>>
Lethal mix on its own, and my guess would even be potential for Methanol (one carbon alcohol) produced in the process, and that is a severe neurotoxin.
I can handle bunches of electricity very safely, and with well designed protective relaying make it very low risk.
You are correct that algae based bio-diesel is an interesting side, as well, and I am attempting to get coal burning customers to consider it (with very limited results, so far )
But if I were making bio-diesel, I would be inclined to sell it directly rather than burn it as it is now a premium product -- and you know the caution from Scarface -- Don't get high on your own supply.
As things are, I can make electricity fast, cheap and in surplus. It is a difficult product to sell, so I might as well use the surplus electricity to make things (e.g., food, other fuels, etc.) that are easy to sell.
And another plus on electric equipment for me -- I can make, rebuild, and maintain electrical driven equipment for much less cost and effort than Internal Combustion Engines (ICE) of any sort, and ownership costs are about 1/10 of ICE equipment.
Back towards your environs -- were I still in South Florida, and interested in plants, etc -- I would be looking at rooftops. Acres and acres (and acres and acres) of flat roof tops all over the area from what I recall (did some A/C work back in the day, down there). Grocery stores, movie theaters, big box stores, on and on.
Maybe look at a concept called "Green Roof." They provide shade and evaporative cooling for the building underneath them. I would bet with some shopping around, you may be able to get some "free" roof space for a pretty good sided spread.
Just curious -- can get or use canal water for plant irrigation?
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