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Old 07-06-2010, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BVitamin View Post
I do appreciate the suggestions julie but I'm trying to narrow things down, though I would love to have the time to visit all these places, I just don't at the moment.

I've been looking at past posts on certain cities in Iowa and to be quite honest, Dubuque sounds off-putting because of the emphasis on the city being really 'Catholic'. Des Moines had never interested me before but looking at some homes around the city, they have some great finds and are cheap compared to what I found in Iowa City which wasn't much. Although the enthusiastic comments of Iowa City makes me want to live there. I've heard UofI has a great writing program, Is this still true? I imagine the city full of writers. Des Moines also has more business around and a Costco, lol, if I could land a job at Costco I would be set. The mention of Des Moines growing into a metropolitan city, like Chicago, at the rate it's going seems a deterrent and I'm sure with, if at all, the amtrak to Chicago gets built it would grow that much more. Iowa City also seems to be one of those stops to and fro, and growth is to be expected. I've been to Chicago, from what I gather on here about Iowa, I would hate to see all the roaches from Chicago filtering in which isn't to say that Chi-town is entirely bad, I actually love parts of it but not enough to put up with the other crap. So that's where I'm at.

On a side note, I told my brother/boss that I may be moving in the near future and he offered to give me a raise, nothing significant though :/ Central Cali is really an armpit, real estate here is incomparable to the real estate in Iowa which offers more for your dollar. Most of the buildings here date back to the 70's, cookie cut-urban planning 70's, just a whole lot of blah. So, I believe I'm set on moving. Don't hate on me but I've been contemplating on Portland, Or as well. Hopefully within the next eight months I'll get to visit both places. Portland first and then Iowa.
Just to put it out there - Dubuque is very Catholic, but it's not really the hard core in your face CATHOLIC OR DIE. Growing up in Iowa and talking to friends from Dubuque about the Catholic thing, they said it just is what it is. It's not a cult following.

I've noticed things to be a lot different down south compared to Iowa as far as religion. In Iowa people are fairly tolerant. It's more a live and let live attitude. For instance the gay marriage issue. It's legal in Iowa, and many people don't like it, but the overall feeling tends to be "well I don't support gay marriage, but who the hell am I to tell someone how to live their life?". Down south I've visited small towns, and I swear within 10 seconds people are asking me what church I belong to and about christianity. That seemed very strange coming from a place where your religion is your religion.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:05 AM
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I'm from Dubuque and I've never had anyone blatantly ask me what religion I am until I got to Iowa City.. it made for a slightly awkward situation since they were really religious and I'm not in the least, but it was totally not a big deal and that part of the conversation was dropped immediately after. Something I do notice about the two cities is that IC seems to have more Kwik-E-Church type places where it's just a tiny little church and looks real modern and whatnot, while Dubuque has more gigantic cathedrals. But as far as I'm concerned, fear of being labeled an 'outsider' because of religion is irrational.

And to continue on from BVitamin's comment about Iowa City and writers- the writers workshop here is among the best and there are tons of writers. In fact Iowa City in general is full of 'intellectuals' which took a while to grow on me, because I would go back to Dubuque and.... (forgive me guys i love my hometown but) there's a lot more idiots per capita than Iowa City.. I think that's a valuable statistic that city-data is missing
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:24 PM
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thtapler, was this one incident?

UofI needs to extend their campus all the way to Dubuque. Wouldn't that be great. Religion capping intellectual curiosity to a low degree, I've heard it before. I suppose why learn anything when you can just say, "God did it".

Were there any religious pundits who blamed Liberals/Homosexuals for the flood in Iowa City? :/

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Old 07-07-2010, 10:16 AM
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.”

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Old 07-08-2010, 07:21 PM
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@BVitamin, it only happened once and it was honestly not a big deal

Not sure about the flood question because I wasn't around IC when it happened but I've never heard anything like what you suggested. It's just a matter of IC being in the floodplain
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:31 AM
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Thanks for all the info guys.

I've decided not to move to Iowa. I was contemplating a lot of factors and having visited several cities, I've found that these cities offer a lot more -- mainly a connection to things otherwise not available in Iowa.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:04 PM
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Wow, Dubuque made my mouth water. It does look like old version of Portland, Oregon in a way. I have never been there yet. I didn't realize it's that steep hill going that high.
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