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Old 04-02-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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Well - Burlington is relatively close (1.5 hours at most) to both Peoria and the Quad Cities - which can offer more diversity / variety. There are a number of other small cities nearby (Ft. Madison, Muscatine, Galesburg IL) ... Quincy IL is just about an hour away as well. Des Moines, Chicago, and St. Louis could be done as a day trip. I think most bix box retailers are present in Burlington (but only one location of each). I think one challenge would be more specialty shops that are often not in the smaller markets, but there is always on line shopping - which in MOST cases is tax free!
Iowa City is a great place to go shopping and it's not too far away for a day trip. :-)
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:57 PM
 
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I live in Fort Madison and have worked in (West) Burlington for 18 years. My fiance moved to this area last August and often comments about how friendly and open people are in Southeast Iowa. She grew up in San Antonio and lived in Des Moines for over 10 years before coming here. To add a little perspective not already noted: Burlington has new, award-winning hospital and medical complex, a brand new library, and two or three new schools built in the last few years with voter and community support. There's also a new outdoor recreation facility for organized sports leagues. A riverfront auditorium hosts diverse events - everything from indoor rodeos to rock concerts to symphonies. Check out the Catfish Bend/Fun City website. This combination casino, hotel, restaurants, event center, indoor/outdoor waterpark complex draws lots of visitors to the area. You won't be bored or feel out of place. Southern accents are welcomed! We're even said to have our own "southern Iowa" drawl around here. Hope this is helpful and that all goes well for you.
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Old 04-13-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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Hey Tim,
Coming from someone from a large city I must say Burlington is a pretty cool little town. It has its ups and downs but overall I think it offers a lot for a metro of 30K. the previous posts have really named a lot in the area...just to add a few more things. There is a great music venue downtown called the Washington...They bring in some great acts ranging from blues, jazz, hip hop, and rock. Also there is a really cool place to get a pizza and a good microbrew called MR motos. Im not sure if its 21 and up tho....anyways you just have to remember that u are not in a big city, if you are accustomed to chain restaurants and retail chains Burlington is limited. But if you enjoy character and local charm I think you will enjoy what Burlinton has to offer. My suggestion is to join an organization to meet some like minded people. Good luck
ps I must warn you that the winters are VERY boring, aside from that spring thru fall is great!
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:20 PM
 
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Thank you for the comments everyone. At this point we are really excited for the move. The only problem we have not is finding a place to rent. It looks like Burlington has had some recent growth. There seem to be hardly any homes for rent and most of the apartments complexes are full with waiting lists.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:42 PM
 
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when did you visit Burlington? In your dreams? You are not describing the Burlington Iowa that we live in. indeed, there are bars all over the place. as a matter of fact, there are more bars than churches, which says a lot. and crime is plentiful. from meth labs, to armed robberies, to forgeries, to check frauds, to sexual assaults, thefts, residential and business burglaries, to just flat out people beating other people up for no apparent reason (take note the bars). that's just the tip of the ice berg because the newspaper is being run by a bunch of boosters, who have no clue — or denies the fact that it exists — what the hell is going on outside their office. a lot of retail chains, you have to be kidding me.
true there are big box stores like target, lowes, but that's it. everyone goes to walmart, shopko or menards. a lot of people drive to iowa city, or even des moines to do shopping. forget about the so-called mall. it's an empty building with noting but three stores in it, oh, plus the "new" movie theater.
kidding aside, without the anchor store such as JC Penny and Younkers, the mall would fold.
Friendly people????? If you have a lot of money, and you volunteer for the sole purpose of getting your name in the so-called paper, or the sorry piece of radio station they have, then you may well fit in. Oh, and if you have kids who go to notre dame, then you'll be snug here. don't forget to give money, and get a megaphone to announce how much you gave and what you did, then you'll fit right in.
need work on your house? No problem. call a contractor and get jabbed in the butt. the worker can either ********* with the price; get convicted felons working on your project, or insult you by saying you can't afford what you want done. and that's when you're lucky enough to get anyone call you back or at least give you an estimate.
we tried getting an estimate on having the house repainted, porch work, chimney and other things, but no one even bothered to call back, or show up. except for the one time this arrogant contractor showed up, and said we could not afford it. how the hell would he know.
no one is going to tell you the defect of homes, so beware. there are bats all over the friggin place. in the attic, basement, walls, garages and even inside your clothes drier.
snake alley? it's not even a street, so how can it be the crookedest street in the world. that's BS. it's just one example these boosters are putting out there to exaggerate, and sell this dump. granting it's a pretty neat site, but don't overplay it to the point of misrepresentation.
oldest newspaper? it was a newspaper back in its golden years...a very long time ago. now it's a reminder paper, a rag ran by inexperienced wannabe editors and reporters. the managing editor, city editor and some of the desk editors don't even have experience as reporters. they are not only ignorant, but arrogant and have a know-it-all complex. they push their agenda to their readers. sadly, the community is the one that suffers because it does not get the whole truth.
everyone is a big fish. they intimidate. they are right, always. and you are wrong, always. if you are not from here, you're nothing.
schools are the same, especially the public schools where teachers and administrators treat children and their jobs like a production line: just another day in the factory. no wonder most end up in the police blotter, or the juvenile court system. the teachers go to work for the paycheck, not because they want to teach the kids. children are not allowed to think outside of the box, or speak for themselves, or formulate their own opinion. the school district intimidates and punishes kids who have the nerve to stand up for what they think is right. they get penalized for being different than the stupid standards set up by the district.
graduation rate is very low, but you won't see it because they pass everyone. bottom line, you attend school, you pass. it's that simple. doesn't matter whether you learned how to read and write, as long as these so-called "educators" meet their quota so they can get state money.
and there is no such thing as downtown burlington. empty and rotting buildings are all there is. parking for less than 30 minutes. yes there are shops, a few, but they are not open the weekends, when most people are off. they are not open the evenings, when most people are off. they are not open extended hours during the holidays, when most people are off.
and then they complain of not having enough business. go figure.
fun during steamboat days???? if you call getting invaded by may flies, mugged and robbed fun, then yes it's a blast.
you probably visited in the 1800s. BECAUSE THE BURLINGTON YOU DESCRIBED IS NOT THE BURLINGTON TODAY!
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:00 PM
 
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I hope you didn't make your move here! We just saw this posting and wished we had replied sooner so you would get an honest answer for what Burlington is really like. CREEPY We have lived in other small towns. We have also lived in very big cities. This has been our worst experience of them all.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:54 AM
 
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when did you visit Burlington? In your dreams? You are not describing the Burlington Iowa that we live in. indeed, there are bars all over the place. as a matter of fact, there are more bars than churches, which says a lot. and crime is plentiful. from meth labs, to armed robberies, to forgeries, to check frauds, to sexual assaults, thefts, residential and business burglaries, to just flat out people beating other people up for no apparent reason (take note the bars). that's just the tip of the ice berg because the newspaper is being run by a bunch of boosters, who have no clue — or denies the fact that it exists — what the hell is going on outside their office. a lot of retail chains, you have to be kidding me.
true there are big box stores like target, lowes, but that's it. everyone goes to walmart, shopko or menards. a lot of people drive to iowa city, or even des moines to do shopping. forget about the so-called mall. it's an empty building with noting but three stores in it, oh, plus the "new" movie theater.
kidding aside, without the anchor store such as JC Penny and Younkers, the mall would fold.
Friendly people????? If you have a lot of money, and you volunteer for the sole purpose of getting your name in the so-called paper, or the sorry piece of radio station they have, then you may well fit in. Oh, and if you have kids who go to notre dame, then you'll be snug here. don't forget to give money, and get a megaphone to announce how much you gave and what you did, then you'll fit right in.
need work on your house? No problem. call a contractor and get jabbed in the butt. the worker can either ********* with the price; get convicted felons working on your project, or insult you by saying you can't afford what you want done. and that's when you're lucky enough to get anyone call you back or at least give you an estimate.
we tried getting an estimate on having the house repainted, porch work, chimney and other things, but no one even bothered to call back, or show up. except for the one time this arrogant contractor showed up, and said we could not afford it. how the hell would he know.
no one is going to tell you the defect of homes, so beware. there are bats all over the friggin place. in the attic, basement, walls, garages and even inside your clothes drier.
snake alley? it's not even a street, so how can it be the crookedest street in the world. that's BS. it's just one example these boosters are putting out there to exaggerate, and sell this dump. granting it's a pretty neat site, but don't overplay it to the point of misrepresentation.
oldest newspaper? it was a newspaper back in its golden years...a very long time ago. now it's a reminder paper, a rag ran by inexperienced wannabe editors and reporters. the managing editor, city editor and some of the desk editors don't even have experience as reporters. they are not only ignorant, but arrogant and have a know-it-all complex. they push their agenda to their readers. sadly, the community is the one that suffers because it does not get the whole truth.
everyone is a big fish. they intimidate. they are right, always. and you are wrong, always. if you are not from here, you're nothing.
schools are the same, especially the public schools where teachers and administrators treat children and their jobs like a production line: just another day in the factory. no wonder most end up in the police blotter, or the juvenile court system. the teachers go to work for the paycheck, not because they want to teach the kids. children are not allowed to think outside of the box, or speak for themselves, or formulate their own opinion. the school district intimidates and punishes kids who have the nerve to stand up for what they think is right. they get penalized for being different than the stupid standards set up by the district.
graduation rate is very low, but you won't see it because they pass everyone. bottom line, you attend school, you pass. it's that simple. doesn't matter whether you learned how to read and write, as long as these so-called "educators" meet their quota so they can get state money.
and there is no such thing as downtown burlington. empty and rotting buildings are all there is. parking for less than 30 minutes. yes there are shops, a few, but they are not open the weekends, when most people are off. they are not open the evenings, when most people are off. they are not open extended hours during the holidays, when most people are off.
and then they complain of not having enough business. go figure.
fun during steamboat days???? if you call getting invaded by may flies, mugged and robbed fun, then yes it's a blast.
you probably visited in the 1800s. BECAUSE THE BURLINGTON YOU DESCRIBED IS NOT THE BURLINGTON TODAY!

WOW. Do you still live in Burlington? If so, WHY?

Seriously, I was born in Burlington and lived there until I moved to Des Moines 10 years ago. It's not as bad as you describe. SERIOUSLY.

The mall is a mall, there is room for over 65 stores. last time I was there a good majority of those were filled. Downtown has some cool stuff (Weird Harold's records and Napoli Pizza, the best pizza EVER), though it's not a bustling shopping district...but towns all over the state are struggling to get foot traffic up in the downtown area. Even Des Moines worked hard to revitalize the East Village.

I never had a bat in any of the homes I lived in. Snake Alley is an alley. It's driveable (I've driven down it many, many times) though I'm not sure if they still allow cars on it. Ripley's called it the "Crookedest Street in the World" not the people of Burlington.

I LOVE Steamboat Days. I try to return every year for at least one night. Music on the riverfront on a warm summer night...sure there are mayflies, but other than seeing them fly around the lights they don't bother you.


What newspaper DOESN'T push their agenda on people? Have you read the Des Moines Register?

I left Burlington because small town life wasn't for me. But, it's not as bad as you made it out to be.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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WOW. Do you still live in Burlington? If so, WHY?

Seriously, I was born in Burlington and lived there until I moved to Des Moines 10 years ago. It's not as bad as you describe. SERIOUSLY.

The mall is a mall, there is room for over 65 stores. last time I was there a good majority of those were filled. Downtown has some cool stuff (Weird Harold's records and Napoli Pizza, the best pizza EVER), though it's not a bustling shopping district...but towns all over the state are struggling to get foot traffic up in the downtown area. Even Des Moines worked hard to revitalize the East Village.

I never had a bat in any of the homes I lived in. Snake Alley is an alley. It's driveable (I've driven down it many, many times) though I'm not sure if they still allow cars on it. Ripley's called it the "Crookedest Street in the World" not the people of Burlington.

I LOVE Steamboat Days. I try to return every year for at least one night. Music on the riverfront on a warm summer night...sure there are mayflies, but other than seeing them fly around the lights they don't bother you.


What newspaper DOESN'T push their agenda on people? Have you read the Des Moines Register?

I left Burlington because small town life wasn't for me. But, it's not as bad as you made it out to be.
Sadly, yes, we still live in Burlington, but we are trying to sell our house so we can get out of here. Unlike some, we opted to stick around until the house sells because we can't afford two payments. As soon as this sells, we're outa here.
True there are shops downtown, but those are the ones that have been there for quite sometime. They say they attract, or at least trying to attract, new business, but the people are making it hard for transplants to set up shop. I knew of several couples from California who bought older building and homes. When they decided to refurbish one of the buildings using their own money, they approached officials and told them they have to raise rent to cover the upgrade. Needless to say, they were maligned and ridiculed for asking for a rent raise, which by the way is not even that much. Cut the long story short, they took their money elsewhere.
Indeed, there are a lot of towns struggling, but Burlington is in a league of its own. It is struggling because they are not doing anything to fix it. They are set in their ways, which scares the pants off prospective businesses.
On Snake Alley, yes I, too, have driven on it several times. But I still believe Lombard Street in San Francisco is the crookedest — I have lived in San Francisco and drove Lombard.
Everyone has their opinion about Steamboat Days.
You are lucky the homes you lived in here had no bats. We have spoken to a lot of people, I mean a lot, who had horror bat stories. Police always keep tennis rackets in the trunk of their cruisers because they get a lot of bat calls.
On the newspaper, yes I read the register, as well as other major publications here and abroad. But, like the town, the local paper is in a league of its own.
There's one editor who is a board member of at least two organizations in town, and he writes or assigns reporters to do stories regarding those organizations. First rule of journalism is to be objective, and readers can question ones objectivity if the writer has any connection with the subject he or she is writing about.
Second- the paper has the mentality of they're always right, and the readers are wrong, because they are the ones with the degrees.
It may hold the distinction as the state's "oldest newspaper," but the glory that was known as ethical and accurate journalism is long gone. It now serves as an advertiser, nothing more. It holds the "oldest" distinction because it is the only game in town. I truly believe that if one should establish a rival paper, one with integrity, and one with well-rounded editors and reporters who have real world experience and not gather news inside the office, then the "longtime" rag will fold.
So, I get my news online — real news. I rely on information locally by talking to people around town. I find it more accurate.
It has been a struggle for us living here. Since we are on a limited income that doesn't allow us to go do things, or have things, people have treated us differently. Don't get me wrong, we have tried to make friends, but as soon as the people find out we can't do what they are accustomed to, they drop us like dirty rags. Don't matter, because we still have friends and family outside this town, and outside this state.
You said "it's not as bad" as I made it out to be, but it is what it is. Crime is rampant. This town has more crime per capita than some cities in southern California. This town has more crime per capita as at least two cities of over 100,000 residents in Texas.
Drugs are rampant, so as assaults, robberies, burglaries, etc. The paper downplays it — just another example of pushing their agenda. There are even school, or former school officials, busted for stealing thousands of dollars from a PTO.
So, we are praying this house sells, so we can get the heck out of dodge.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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Lombard Street does have more corners, but Snake Alley's claim to fame came when Ripley's Believe it or Not called it the crookedest. But really? Who cares which one actually is? Snake Alley is a cool thing! Very unique.

Sorry you have bats. I have bats in my neighborhood in Des Moines (not in my house though) and welcome them every spring/summer. I enjoy watching them circle overhead at dusk knowing they are eating mosquitoes. I lived in Bton 30 and honestly cannot remember anyone who ever spoke of a bat problem. Definately not an infestation.

Burlington's biggest problem is it is isolated. it can't thrive like other towns in the state. It's 70+miles from any other larger metro. Many of the people there dont' have lots of extra money to spend, so they aren't likely to go to funky little shops that would attract people from larger metro areas, or even to a smaller town close to a metro. Like Pella, for instance. Small town, but close enough for Des Moines people to shop.

I moved out of Bton for a reason, but you make it sound like a cess pool! it's not THAT bad if you are into small town life.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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Lombard Street does have more corners, but Snake Alley's claim to fame came when Ripley's Believe it or Not called it the crookedest. But really? Who cares which one actually is? Snake Alley is a cool thing! Very unique.

Sorry you have bats. I have bats in my neighborhood in Des Moines (not in my house though) and welcome them every spring/summer. I enjoy watching them circle overhead at dusk knowing they are eating mosquitoes. I lived in Bton 30 and honestly cannot remember anyone who ever spoke of a bat problem. Definately not an infestation.

Burlington's biggest problem is it is isolated. it can't thrive like other towns in the state. It's 70+miles from any other larger metro. Many of the people there dont' have lots of extra money to spend, so they aren't likely to go to funky little shops that would attract people from larger metro areas, or even to a smaller town close to a metro. Like Pella, for instance. Small town, but close enough for Des Moines people to shop.

I moved out of Bton for a reason, but you make it sound like a cess pool! it's not THAT bad if you are into small town life.
Well, I don't know who you have talked to regarding the bats, but that's not what we've been told, and experienced.
I disagree about Burlington's biggest problem as being isolated. I have been in small towns that are more isolated than Burlington, but yet they thrive. It's the people's mentality and how they go about dealing with other people. Many move here because they are going to be big fish in a little pond. Burlington's problem: it pushes being a "big cosmopolitan" town, but have nothing to back it up.
It all boils down to the people on how they treat other people. Many I have come across with have a superiority complex, big man complex, etc.
You say it's not that bad if I am into small town life: We have lived in several places, both big metropolitan cities and towns with a population far less than Burlington.
We have enjoyed living in those cities and towns and can't say anything bad about its people and the places in general.
However, we can't say that about Burlington. Smiles on our faces will reappear soon after we pass the sign that says "You are now leaving Burlington!!!"
Will never come back, will never look back.
Plain and simple.
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