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Old 05-25-2013, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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The "issue" with the last couple of pages of this discussion is that people are talking past each other. Maybe this will help.

Ronnie (and his reluctant band of supporters here) aren't interested in an academic definition for the purposes of a general discussion on the differences in accents that we hear in our everyday lives. I tend to be in this camp (at least for an informal discussion as this is). My general catagories for the midwest - northern, no accent, southern. From there a add an adjective -e.g...that person has a strong (or weak) northern accent.

For the average person, I think that is all the further they care define this. Shouldn't that be OK (as long as we're not writing a research paper here)?

For my own educational purposes, I appreciate the knowledge that St Louisan is providing here, I just think he/she needs to realize most of us only care to discuss this topic from a more informal place. I do understand being irritated by some of the examples of broad brush stereotypes however. That can be a pet peeve of mine too.
A more informal place? What do you want? Dialect maps? I can provide those to you in full swing..just google. I'm not sure what you're getting at, exactly.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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A more informal place? What do you want? Dialect maps? I can provide those to you in full swing..just google. I'm not sure what you're getting at, exactly.
I thought I explained myself in the second paragraph of the comment of mine you quoted/responded to. I"m not sure how else to make that point.

Again, I appreciate the level of detail you have provided thoughout this thread and acknowledged as such. If you look back, I never disagreed with anything you posted or attempted to contradict you. I just think the level to which you want to discuss the topic is a deep dive into detailed intriquicies beyond what most here care to journey. Your frustration was obvious and I was just trying to interject a prepective from someone that appreciated the information you were providing but could offer some reasoning behind why others might not jump on board to the level you wish(ed).

Bottomline: I don't have a dog in the fight. I was just observing the discussion on the thread and how people were talking past each other and I was just trying to offer some insight on how the discussion might become more productive for all.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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I didn't read most of this thread... but my spouse grew up in Iowa and moved to Texas at age 16. She says some things "funny" (to us) but for the most part you can't hear any accent. Some words though... she says "bag" and "sag" like "bayg" and "sayg". Like the A in "fate".

She says bagel weird too, sounds like beggle. And pecan and coupon (que-pon!?).. oh my.. I won't even go there.
That sounds just like the MN accent, too. We say Q-pon, not Coo-pon.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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That sounds just like the MN accent, too. We say Q-pon, not Coo-pon.
Q-pon is one of those words that just bugs me COO-pon is how I say it
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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Q-pon is one of those words that just bugs me COO-pon is how I say it
It troubles me how you believe St. Louis is Southern. From my experience, and it appears as St. Louisan said, St. Louisans don't talk with a Southern accent. And dialect maps confirm this. Your samples are oddities for sure.
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