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Old 11-19-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Cedar Rapids
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And Des Moines has the I-235 spur in addition to I-80 and I-35. So, the score card shows the QC with 4 interstate routes and Des Moines with 3.

3 times 2 does not equal four. Your math is a little off tonight.
No ... my math is off EVERY night. By the way 3 x 2 = 6 (I think) so I'm not sure what the point was in that.


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What difference does it make if Iowa has a major city or not? It's still a state based primarily on rural agriculture. So what.
It DOESN'T make a difference, I wasn't necessarily pointing it out as a negative thing when I originally made the post. As I clearly stated at the last paragraph of my OP. However I was wondering what the real factors were that stopped Iowa from having a large urban area when most surrounding states DID develop one in their early developing histories. Which you really haven't answered or contributed to that question at all. Rather you just compared modern day growth trends and interstate infrastructure. Another topic, another day.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:13 PM
 
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It DOESN'T make a difference, I wasn't necessarily pointing it out as a negative thing when I originally made the post. As I clearly stated at the last paragraph of my OP. However I was wondering what the real factors were that stopped Iowa from having a large urban area when most surrounding states DID develop one in their early developing histories.
The Iowa economy wasn't set up to attract large numbers of people to one city. That's why the state has been a national leader in corn/soybean/beef/pork production for over a hundred years. Agriculture doesn't require nor does it produce an economy where population becomes concentrated in one central location. In fact, it requires that the population be spread out over vast stretches of land.

Manufacturing and finance (which were a large part of the Chicago, Minneapolis, Milwaukee and Saint Louis economies) did attract large numbers of people to a central location. Riddle solved.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:16 PM
 
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No ... my math is off EVERY night. By the way 3 x 2 = 6 (I think) so I'm not sure what the point was in that.
You said the Quad Cities had twice the number of interstates as Des Moines.

Let's break it down, since you obviously have difficulty with math:

Des Moines with three interstates (I-80, I-35, I-235)
Quad Cities with four interstates (I-80, I-88, I-74, I-280)

Since when is four twice the quantity of three? You made a statement that was mathematically incorrect.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Cedar Rapids
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Riddle solved.
You didn't "solve anything" ... and people can continue to give ideas and ask questions - your quick witted response really ignored a lot of important points. Not to mention it was a lot less informative than the previous posters - and they somehow managed to do it without a tone! What a concept.

Hey -- you take care!
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Cedar Rapids
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since you obviously have difficulty with math:
Ya know ... some people ACTUALLY do - so you should watch what you say there! Ease up a little man.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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You didn't "solve anything" ... and people can continue to give ideas and ask questions - your quick witted response really ignored a lot of important points. Not to mention it was a lot less informative than the previous posters - and they somehow managed to do it without a tone! What a concept.

Hey -- you take care!
So, does the Quad Cities still have twice the number of interstates as Des Moines? Your informative post on that subject was very enlightening.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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Hey, guys? Let's stop with the math bickering and stick to the topic. Thanks.
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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You said the Quad Cities had twice the number of interstates as Des Moines.

Let's break it down, since you obviously have difficulty with math:

Des Moines with three interstates (I-80, I-35, I-235)
Quad Cities with four interstates (I-80, I-88, I-74, I-280)

Since when is four twice the quantity of three? You made a statement that was mathematically incorrect.
I-235 and I-280 shouldn't count in the context of this discussion as each begins and ends in its respective metro area.

Highway 61 through the Quads isn't classified as an interstate, but it is a major four-lane that passes completely through the state into Wisconsin and Missouri.
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Cedar Rapids
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I-235 and I-280 shouldn't count in the context of this discussion as each begins and ends in its respective metro area.

Highway 61 through the Quads isn't classified as an interstate, but it is a major four-lane that passes completely through the state into Wisconsin and Missouri.
I kindly disagree that spur interstates "shouldn't count" ... They often serve as major local interstate infrastructure - which they do in both local areas of the QC and Des Moines. US 61 is one of those remaining US highways with high importance as it is not detracted away by an interstate option for that route such as oh , highway 6. Rather it IS the option for that trans-state Mississippi route.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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I kindly disagree that spur interstates "shouldn't count" ... They often serve as major local interstate infrastructure - which they do in both local areas of the QC and Des Moines.
Sure, they're important for infrastructure purposes. But this line of debate was started in the context of interstates as a means of access to the city, and from that standpoint 235 and 280 really don't fit into the discussion.
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