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Old 02-06-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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It's obvious that Iowa couldn't care less that people have to work or have kids or whatnot and cannot show up at PRECISELY 6:30 PM for the dog and pony show.

Alternatively, all the medical workers, hospital workers, nursing homes, retail workers, restaurants, gas stations, utility workers, police, television personnel, newspaper employees, radio stations, snow plow workers, etc could just take off. Fend for yourselves.

Why not shut Iowa DOWN completely on "caucus day"?

Would that take power away from the ACTIVISTS? (rhetorical question)

The WHOPPING 6% who historically show up?

But it was very thoughtful that finally Iowa patriots decided to allow the military to caucus for apparently the first time in 2015.
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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Considering 13 states caucus instead of holding primaries (about 1/4 of all the 50 states), I doubt all other 49 really signed this


As of the 2012 election cycle, the states which use the caucus system include Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Idaho, Kansas, Wyoming, Alaska, Washington, Florida and North Dakota. U.S. territories American Samoa and the U.S. Virgin Islands also use caucuses.


The most up to date list can be found here:


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2016 Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions Chronologically

NO we do not have a caucus in FLORIDA. We have a primary.

Caucus states like to pretend they're grass roots. IMO they are corrupt insider activists locking out the citizens of the state. YMMV.

HECK in some caucus, the delegates aren't even BINDING.

CORRUPT!

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Old 02-06-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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NO we do not have a caucus in FLORIDA. We have a primary.

Caucus states like to pretend they're grass roots. IMO they are corrupt insider activists locking out the citizens of the state. YMMV.

HECK in some caucus, the delegates aren't even BINDING.

CORRUPT!
I took that list from a website and it listed Florida. I wasn't 100% that was correct; that is why I provided 2 links that listed the most up to date info.
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Old 02-06-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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Considering 13 states caucus instead of holding primaries (about 1/4 of all the 50 states), I doubt all other 49 really signed this


As of the 2012 election cycle, the states which use the caucus system include Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Idaho, Kansas, Wyoming, Alaska, Washington, Florida and North Dakota. U.S. territories American Samoa and the U.S. Virgin Islands also use caucuses.


The most up to date list can be found here:


Bustle


2016 Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions Chronologically
Florida does not use caucuses. I've voted in many primary elections.
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Old 02-06-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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I took that list from a website and it listed Florida. I wasn't 100% that was correct; that is why I provided 2 links that listed the most up to date info.
No problem but the first link doesn't state Florida. I didn't read the second one.
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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Hey Iowa,

Please get rid of your outdated, convoluted and frankly disastrous primary caucus system. It's archaic, and it's really unfair to busy working people who don't have time to spend hours in a caucus room. You really need to think about going to a regular election like most of us have. How you do the caucus thing is really beginning to embarrass the rest of us.

Thanks,

The Other 49 States
A complaint from The Nanny State. Not applicable. LMAO.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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It's obvious that Iowa couldn't care less that people have to work or have kids or whatnot and cannot show up at PRECISELY 6:30 PM for the dog and pony show.

Alternatively, all the medical workers, hospital workers, nursing homes, retail workers, restaurants, gas stations, utility workers, police, television personnel, newspaper employees, radio stations, snow plow workers, etc could just take off. Fend for yourselves.

Why not shut Iowa DOWN completely on "caucus day"?

Would that take power away from the ACTIVISTS? (rhetorical question)
You're not in Iowa. You have absolutely no idea what accommodations are made for Iowans to participate in the caucus. It's treated much like jury duty; by and large, those who have a desire to take part in the caucus are able to take part in the caucus.

I've lived in Iowa through three Presidential caucus cycles and have yet to have anyone tell me that he or she wanted to take part but couldn't because of work. The fact is, most people aren't interested. They're happy to have someone else narrow down the field so they only have two choices on election day. And yes, they still have more than two choices on election day. But the vast majority won't look beyond the R and D candidate. That's a problem nationwide, not just in Iowa.

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The WHOPPING 6% who historically show up?
More like 29% for Democrats (171,109 out of 586,835 registered) and 30% for Republicans (186,874/615,763). Let's see if your state's primary turnout beats those numbers before casting stones.

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But it was very thoughtful that finally Iowa patriots decided to allow the military to caucus for apparently the first time in 2015.
All states should do more to ensure that their registered voters who are serving in the military are able to take part. That being said, I'd prefer to se the military have it's own nomination event.

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NO we do not have a caucus in FLORIDA.
Interesting that someone in Florida would choose to criticize another state's voting procedures. Does the phrase "hanging chad" ring any bells?
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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Please be aware that caucuses and primaries are not 'elections'. They are more like 'selections' by people in the political parties involved, deciding who will be the candidate for that party. That selection can be and has been made by rich old white men in smoke filled back rooms, which is perfectly legal. After 1968 the two major parties decided they'd be more democratic in their selection. I'm pretty sure they're regretting that decision.

Hailing from Illinois (primary) and currently residing in Iowa (caucus) I'd certainly choose the primary but this works. It is interesting to see that your 'vote' is not secret and we all look at each other in the groups. Unlike these forums, you are identifiable and have to own up to your opinion.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:21 AM
 
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The caucus is simply an extension of the town crier mentality that dominates every aspect of Iowa's culture.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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Another one. Not Nanny State, but not in Iowa, either. I laugh every time you show up I Can't Spell My Name.
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