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Old 02-20-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Pretty much. Iowa and New Hampshire's out-sized influence in running our presidential elections is woefully misguided and produces bad results. It needs to end.
I suggest the Constitution be amended to just allow campaigning and soliciting of votes and funding for the 365 prior to the Presidential elections. Also just one day for Primary elections or caucuses, the SAME day nationwide. Paper ballots. Required Picture ID (FREE to the voter) for voters and must be registered to vote at least one week before any election.
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:22 AM
 
Location: louisville
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Considering 13 states caucus instead of holding primaries (about 1/4 of all the 50 states), I doubt all other 49 really signed this


As of the 2012 election cycle, the states which use the caucus system include Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Idaho, Kansas, Wyoming, Alaska, Washington, Florida and North Dakota. U.S. territories American Samoa and the U.S. Virgin Islands also use caucuses.


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2016 Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions Chronologically
Kentucky changed from primary to caucus this year as well
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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I suggest the Constitution be amended to just allow campaigning and soliciting of votes and funding for the 365 prior to the Presidential elections. Also just one day for Primary elections or caucuses, the SAME day nationwide. Paper ballots. Required Picture ID (FREE to the voter) for voters and must be registered to vote at least one week before any election.
The bolded can't be done, legally. This is the nomination process we're talking about, and every party gets to use whatever process it deems necessary to nominate the candidate that will best serve its membership. It's not the government's place to step in and say "Okay, Democrats, this is how you're going to pick your candidate."
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Old 02-21-2016, 06:08 AM
 
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Kentucky changed from primary to caucus this year as well
It's much, MUCH cheaper for the states to run a caucus. In fact, primaries cost the states a bunch of taxpayer money. It's an actual voting day, as opposed to caucuses which are closed-door meetings orchestrated and funded entirely by the political party.

The problem with a caucus is that it dramatically reduces voter participation. There's a reason why Iowa has now picked three losers (Huckabee, Santorum, Cruz) in the GOP caucus. It's because only the most motivated "party insiders" will show up for a rigid two-hour meeting on a weeknight to pick who the party wants to run for president.

Compare that approach to an open primary, where people only need a few minutes to participate...and have most of the day to choose when that brief moment will be. Some states, like Illinois, allow absentee voting in their primary. It costs money, but it also increases participation by constituents.

Shouldn't the goal of any thriving democracy be to increase voter participation, not reduce it?
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:03 PM
 
Location: louisville
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It's much, MUCH cheaper for the states to run a caucus. In fact, primaries cost the states a bunch of taxpayer money. It's an actual voting day, as opposed to caucuses which are closed-door meetings orchestrated and funded entirely by the political party.

The problem with a caucus is that it dramatically reduces voter participation. There's a reason why Iowa has now picked three losers (Huckabee, Santorum, Cruz) in the GOP caucus. It's because only the most motivated "party insiders" will show up for a rigid two-hour meeting on a weeknight to pick who the party wants to run for president.

Compare that approach to an open primary, where people only need a few minutes to participate...and have most of the day to choose when that brief moment will be. Some states, like Illinois, allow absentee voting in their primary. It costs money, but it also increases participation by constituents.

Shouldn't the goal of any thriving democracy be to increase voter participation, not reduce it?
Kentucky switched to caucus for republicans because rand Paul couldn't be on the primary ballot for both president and his senate seat.
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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The caucus system works in our largely rural agrarian state. It has first status for many reasons that benefit the political process. For example, our districts are drawn up by impartial panels. Neither party can hijack the system by gerrymanderring.
Look up how many other states do this. Count them up on one finger of one hand. This is a deal breaker in my mind. Any state with first status should be required to do this, (actually every state should be. I would feel ashamed to be in a state that disenfranchised voters and pretends to be a democracy.) Ok, my rant about this is over.

Iowa is deeply purple. Like the country at large, it is split between rural and cities. Imagine the benefits for any campaign to craft its message in a way that will give it a better chance in the big delegate states. By looking at individual precincts, politicos can rapidly see how their candidates connect with voters in populated areas and rural areas.

It is inexpensive to launch a campaign. I have watched viable candidates start out with miniscule budgets, just staff and the candidate traveling in a van or SUV. Can this be done in an eastern or western seaboard state with their prices. I say not.

Lastly, to those who think a national Super Tuesday is the way to go, how much more money will it take to launch a campaign in the entire USA? We really will become the nation with the best candidates that money can buy if that happens.

There are criticisms. White, yes, but a black president got a good start in this white state. Fuel ethanol? The cluster flub of cartels and oil wars made Iowans look for alternative solutions, and using waste for fuel seemed sensible. Now that cartels have fallen apart, so has ethanol's support. Notice which candidates have won without supporting ethanol?
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