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Old 08-01-2016, 08:30 PM
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Originally Posted by Vince Niyo View Post
Few weeks ago, I was at this company address, when one of their clients mentioned that she had moved from LA and was talking about how she liked living in the 50311. So this is another good zipcode for sure and I knew this already. The more you go to the west of this zipcode, the better I think.

And of course if you go further to the west side of Des Moines like West Des Moines, Waukee, Grimes or north west to Johnston, you will like it better but the cost goes up a bit. So I think you have a lot of choices, but if the cost is in consideration, then stay in Des Moines.
That is not necessarily true. Some of the largest concentration of higher priced homes are just west of downtown Des Moines (e.g...South of Grand, Owl Head, Waterbury, etc.).
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:50 PM
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I used to live in Dubuque, Northeast Iowa and only one company IBM was big tech game in town before they started mass layoffs. I moved from another state and took the job in Iowa as Tech Support Specialist even though they were only paying $15 an hours with my college degree, because I was 1) Unemployed and need to get back on my feet asap, 2) As big company seemed no brainer that would get opportunity to move up and learn a lot.
To my shock, I discovered how the process was really segregated between teams and people within team, like in an assembly line at a manufacturing factory, same repeatable set of tasks from which you learned next to nothing. That's why they were able to keep wages low, because they dumbed down responsibilities of the techs they hired and for these positions they did not need highly competitive employees. A lot of my coworkers were angry at the fact that the tellers who worked across the street made as much as we. The turnover there was quite high. I stayed there only 1 year and moved back.

Before you move consider this:
1. Public school rankings (if you have kids) but I think most Iowa schools should not be underperforming
2. Go for Iowa City over Des Moines or Cedar Rapids despite higher cost of living. You get what you pay for. As someone mentioned you get a lot more access to nature, trails and lakes, plus you will only 1h-1:30 from Dubuque/Galena area that has nice hills and ski resorts, trails. I did not like Dubuque town to be honest but liked the bluffs around the town and nature. I really liked Galena including its downtown and resorts even though it was pretty quiet area and not much to do there for a 20 something year old.
3. If job market in IC is too small move to Des Moines. You will probably get better housing there and everything will be probably more modern than NE Iowa.
4. Consider if your job industry in the city you are moving to is competitive in software development. You may have to spend more time on training and less on family but it is WORTH IT. You get better job security and more flexibility to move between jobs and push for salary, promotion etc. Unfortunately since Midwest areas lack growing startups due to lack of VC funding, you will most likely be stuck between corporations with less perks and privileges who are less than stellar about their employees welfare. If that is your concern then consider moving to bigger cities or metro areas or public sector. One thing I like about public sector they have 9/80 work schedule. Every 2 weeks you get Fridays off
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Old 08-12-2016, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nwman2830 View Post
2. Go for Iowa City over Des Moines or Cedar Rapids despite higher cost of living. You get what you pay for. As someone mentioned you get a lot more access to nature, trails and lakes.
How do you figure Iowa City has more lakes than Cedar Rapids and Des Moines? Coralville Reservoir and MacBride are in between Iowa City and CR and CR also has Pleasant Creek nearby. Des Moines has 2 of the biggest lakes in the state within 30 minutes. I think Iowa City probably has the worst lake access of these 3.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:54 AM
Location: DSM
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Lived here most all of my life minus the 13 years I lived in paradise i.e. San Diego, CA (employment opportunity).
Back to Iowa in the 1990's.
Iowa is "different" to say the least.
Des Moines, a mix of liberal democrats and extremist far right wing religious conservatives.
Like mixing oil and water.

Some parts of Des Moines have really gone down hill since the 1960's - 70's.
The south side of today more resembles what the east side looked like back in the 70's.
Less educated, blue collar, lower income, with a generous mix of minority.
Unlike the 70's where much of the south side were white middle class families.
The Jordan Creek area seems the place to be now a day.
The difference between the older South-East of Des moines and the newer western Jordan creek area is like night and day.
And oddly enough, living in the newer west side is more affordable than the much older East-South side area.

The Des moines city council has always believed Des Moines as a mini New York in the making.
Downtown apartments springing up daily, plus the downtown farmers market which has caught on like wildfire (if you can find a parking place), and thanks to the vision of 1970's TV celebrity Bill Riley, bike trails flourish everywhere throughout Des Moines and the state.
Housing is still fairly affordable, especially more so since the 2008 housing crash.
Which had its up side with greatly slowing down property tax hikes that had been spiraling out of control pre-2008 by a city the believed itself to be the next New York city in the making. Which was proved it was indeed not.
Apartment selection is still fairly reasonable and affordable, however, renting near a bike trail might be a wise choice for the active individual. Location, location, location.

Des Moines can be an odd place to live.
The Des Moines city council can and often governs against the city best interest.
Night life for the young folk has been greatly limited.
One oddity of the city council, they tend to disregard maintaining the quaint established old Des Moines, instead preferring the trendy less quaint newer Des Moines.
From the small to the large, if it no longer fits the agenda of the city council, they tear it down.
Everyone that grew up in Des Moines loved the downtown "KRNT Weather beacon".
Lights on a tall tower antenna forecasting the weather for all eyes to see from miles and miles away.
That loving landmark went dark back in the 1990's after having predicted our weather for generation after generation of nostalgic city dwellers.
The city council might have saved that landmark with a high-tech update into the era of LED lighting, or glass tubing delivering beaming light up into the night sky.
Once again, forever predicting the weather forecast for generation after generation to come.
But no.
Not on the city councils to do list, obviously.

Then, we had the Des Moines airport. The "Blue-lights" as it was called, parking area.
Generation after generation of both young and old parked watching the airplanes, large and small, fly in and out of Des Moines. A true treat for all that took the time in the viewing.
However, that too was disposable and unworthy of saving in the eyes of the Des Moines city council.
Bulldozed into oblivion, to be no more.

Just another of so many simple enjoyments for Des Moines residents of all ages, wiped away in the name of progress.
Progress in destroying the best of Des Moines.
And then we have the last Des Moines drive-in theater.
The land sold and drive-in replaced with a big box hardware chain brick and mortar heap of boring store.
And now?
A family must drive an hour to the nearest drive-in movie theater.
So sad a loss for the once quaint city of Des Moines.
And the total disregard for preserving the best of Des Moines..

Having visited Minneapolis many times, at least Minnesota and Minneapolis respect and maintains the old as well as intergrading the new. Something Des Moines quit doing so long long ago.

So, for those looking to move or relocate to the state of Iowa and more so to the city Des Moines, you will never know what you may be missing because it was probably torn down.
Poor city planning. A less than desirable city council with absolutely no vision for preservation. And something is definitely going on with the road repair. Minneapolis can completely replace a bridge in less than a year, where it take the city of Des Moines sever years to repair a pothole. And one must wonder and ask, where is the money going?

Des Moines may be gaining those high tech jobs, attracting some of those open minded millennials into the state, but all that could evaporate over night should the Iowa legislator and Iowa leadership fall victim to the religious right extremist agenda of intolerance.
The anti-gay, anti-youth extremist that despise progress, especially if it involves two men living together let alone allowed to marry one another. All it would take is one bad election cycle to bring progress in Iowa to a screeching halt.
And once again all of Iowa as well as city of Des Moines would witness their youth fleeing away to other more accepting cities and states.
Iowa can be a pretty nice place to live, considering, but that advantage hangs on a string. So all I can say is, enter at your own risk. And always have an exit strategy, just in case.
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