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Old 04-19-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: In a place with little freedom (aka USA)
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How about some ideas on how we can make Iowa more appealing to those of other parts of the world who may want to visit or live here?

Perhaps the rise in the oceans will force them to move inland. But I don't want millions just a few hundred thousand coming.

How about legalizing prostitution?

Or moving a mountain from Colorado?
How about have more jobs? That is the root of everything.

Iowa, especially the Des Moines area lacks jobs and home prices are high in the good places like Urbandale and West Des Moines. Plus there is far too much racism in most of Iowa, for example people there dislike Mexicans and Bosnians. It is sad, sad, sad.

But here is some good things about Iowa:
  • In Iowa you can earn barely enough money so you can qualify for section 42. You can live nicely very cheap!
  • Also, there is full-day kindergarden for those of us that have kids!
  • Hy-Vee is a wonderful chain of supermarkets with great meat selection and all sorts of brats (brat burgers, bratwurst...)
  • You can go hunt for morels! They are good mushrooms you can fry.
  • Lots of state parks that allow skeet shooting, target practice
  • The earwigs and wolf spiders are friendly! They dont bite
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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How about have more jobs? That is the root of everything.

Iowa, especially the Des Moines area lacks jobs and home prices are high in the good places like Urbandale and West Des Moines. Plus there is far too much racism in most of Iowa, for example people there dislike Mexicans and Bosnians. It is sad, sad, sad.

once you lose your credibility, what's left?

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Old 04-20-2010, 12:26 AM
 
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1) Clean up the lakes - clear, not muddy . . .
2) Build more skyscrapers. Our town looks like a turd that washed up on the banks of the Des Moines and Raccoon Rivers.
3) Bring more big corporate businesses to occupy not only the new skyscrapers but also the empty ones we currently have. This will bring more jobs and more people to Des Moines, which will attract ancillary businesses (restaraunts, barbers, etc.)
4) Stop building strip-malls and condos
5) Annex Ankeny as North Des Moines.
6) Revitalize Merle Hay, Douglas, and old Urbandale.
7) Pay Tasty Tacos to advertise in our marketing brochures.
8) Major leauge sports teams. I don't see much of a difference between us and Green Bay or Buffalo.
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Old 04-20-2010, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Des Moines, IA
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8) Major leauge sports teams. I don't see much of a difference between us and Green Bay or Buffalo.

Huge difference. While Green Bay itself is small, the Packers have Milwaukee (a lot bigger than Des Moines) and Madison (about the same size as Des Moines) within close proximity where most of the fans come from. Their market is basically the entire state of Wisconsin.

Buffalo is quite a bit bigger than Des Moines and also very close to Toronto (no NFL team there, so a likely candidate for football fans from that very large city) and there's Rochester, Syracuse and Utica relatively close by.


A team in Des Moines wouldn't have much of a draw. Folks in Omaha would probably be more likely to go to KC (KC actually depends on this for their teams) and Eastern Iowa would be more likely to head towards Chicago for professional sports. The market just simply isn't large enough to sustain a pro-sports team. Hartford and Quebec City are probably the cities closest in size (excluding Green Bay) to Des Moines that have had a sports team and they failed there. Not going to happen.
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Chariton, Iowa
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Huge difference. While Green Bay itself is small, the Packers have Milwaukee (a lot bigger than Des Moines) and Madison (about the same size as Des Moines) within close proximity where most of the fans come from. Their market is basically the entire state of Wisconsin.

Buffalo is quite a bit bigger than Des Moines and also very close to Toronto (no NFL team there, so a likely candidate for football fans from that very large city) and there's Rochester, Syracuse and Utica relatively close by.


A team in Des Moines wouldn't have much of a draw. Folks in Omaha would probably be more likely to go to KC (KC actually depends on this for their teams) and Eastern Iowa would be more likely to head towards Chicago for professional sports. The market just simply isn't large enough to sustain a pro-sports team. Hartford and Quebec City are probably the cities closest in size (excluding Green Bay) to Des Moines that have had a sports team and they failed there. Not going to happen.
Honestly, Green Bay is a fluke. It's a unique hold out from the early days of football when it was a great lakes area sport and every medium sized city had a team. How it has thrived so far is due to good luck and, as you said, the Milwaukee and Madison fanbase. You couldn't just start an NFL franchise in a Des Moines-sized city today and expect it to do well.

I mean, whatever happened to the Kenosha Maroons?
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:21 AM
 
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^ I was gonna say, Green Bay is a very specialized situation as far as why it has a team. Honestly you'd have to be at least twice as big as the Des Moines area to really be in the running for a team. It's certainly not Des Moines' fault anymore than it's the fault of 50 other medium-sized cities that I'm sure would love to have a team.

Also I don't really agree with the posts that said to build up the downtown, more skyscrapers, and more large corporations. I mean I would love to see that, but it's hardly anything Des Moines has failed at up to this point.

Des Moines actually has by far one of the largest skylines in the country for a city its size, and it has a more corporate atmosphere pound for pound than almost any other metro of 500-600K.

I think Des Moines and a few other areas like Iowa City sell themselves pretty well. It's the other cities that have kinda lost their way since the 1970's that need the most image help. Waterloo, Sioux City, Quad Cities. Not saying they aren't fine places - but they're pretty stagnant, and aren't getting an inflo of people, ideas or capital.
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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1) 8) Major leauge sports teams. I don't see much of a difference between us and Green Bay or Buffalo.

There is already talk of Buffalo losing their team to a larger market.
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Old 04-21-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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Iowa has know cities,too many small towns and way too many counties. Iowa needs too merge connecting cities and towns, and when times get better some type of pro sports, and please stop electing old fart farmers with no creativity too run the state,they seems to be stuck in the 80's.other then this there is no hope in iowa.
The "times" have little to do with adding pro sports teams. For one, we do have pro sports teams. The Iowa Cubs are a pro team, just of the AAA variety.

To add a sports team, one of two things must happen.

1) The leagues must expand, and agree to add a new team. Of course studies will be done to make a case for what city would best suit said team. The study will show that cities like Las Vegas, San Antonio, and many other large cities would suit the team better. Lots of big cities have one pro sport present, but nothing else.

2) A team would have to be sold, bought, and moved here. That would never happen.
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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States push special cities that lie within them.

This is no slur on other cities in Iowa, but the state of Iowa would be well advised to push the most special city in the state: Iowa City. That's where your gold mind lies.
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:23 PM
 
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Get Pappajohn, Branstad, George Formaro, Larry Zinthelman, and Kim Austin to pool their money and buy the Rams. Don't let Des Moines build the stadium, though, they'd make it rust brown and stick it some place thoughtless.
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