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Old 01-01-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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I didn't read all eight pages, but I do assume someone posted that Adam and Moses did not live in the same era.
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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I didn't read all eight pages, but I do assume someone posted that Adam and Moses did not live in the same era.


they did not live in the same era but they did meet by the ability of Allah.




They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be [within] His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him The Noble Quran.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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they did not live in the same era but they did meet by the ability of Allah.
Yeah . . . Riiiiiight!
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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I didn't read all eight pages, but I do assume someone posted that Adam and Moses did not live in the same era.

you were not exist before.

now your are existing

how?

by the ability of Allah

They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be [within] His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him The Noble Quran.
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:19 PM
 
Location: OKC
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If one is willing to believe there is an omnipotent being, than one must admit that anything is possible.
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:38 AM
 
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If one is willing to believe there is an omnipotent being, than one must admit that anything is possible.


If one is willing to believe that a car can go to specifics places without a driver or without someone program it

and also willing to believe that the car was assembled randomly

and also is willing to believe that each item of the car was designed and created by its self

then For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts.
Verily! Allah grasps the heavens and the earth lest they should move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft-Forgiving.

And they swore by Allah their most binding oath that if a warner came to them, they would be more guided than any of the nations (before them); yet when a warner (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) came to them, it increased in them nothing but flight (from the truth)

(They took to flight because of their) arrogance in the land and their plotting of evil. But the evil plot encompasses only him who makes it. Then, can they expect anything (else) but the Sunnah (way of dealing) of the peoples of old? So no change will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing), and no turning off will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing).

Have they not travelled in the land, and seen what was the end of those before them - though they were superior to them in power? Allah is not such that anything in the heavens or in the earth escapes Him. Verily, He is All-Knowing, All-Omnipotent.

And if Allah were to punish men for that which they earned, He would not leave a moving (living) creature on the surface of the earth; but He gives them respite to an appointed term: and when their term comes, then verily, Allah is Ever All-Seer of His slaves. The Noble Quran.

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Old 01-03-2011, 07:06 AM
 
Location: OKC
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If one is willing to believe that a car can go to specifics places without a driver or without someone program it

and also willing to believe that the car was assembled randomly

and also is willing to believe that each item of the car was designed and created by its self

then For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts.
Verily! Allah grasps the heavens and the earth lest they should move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft-Forgiving.

And they swore by Allah their most binding oath that if a warner came to them, they would be more guided than any of the nations (before them); yet when a warner (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) came to them, it increased in them nothing but flight (from the truth)

(They took to flight because of their) arrogance in the land and their plotting of evil. But the evil plot encompasses only him who makes it. Then, can they expect anything (else) but the Sunnah (way of dealing) of the peoples of old? So no change will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing), and no turning off will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing).

Have they not travelled in the land, and seen what was the end of those before them - though they were superior to them in power? Allah is not such that anything in the heavens or in the earth escapes Him. Verily, He is All-Knowing, All-Omnipotent.

And if Allah were to punish men for that which they earned, He would not leave a moving (living) creature on the surface of the earth; but He gives them respite to an appointed term: and when their term comes, then verily, Allah is Ever All-Seer of His slaves. The Noble Quran.


Hey watchmaker, look at the complexity and unique design of snow flakes and tell me there's not a giant snow machine in the sky.

After all, how can something that complex come about from purely natural forces??!?



/sarcasm
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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Hey watchmaker, look at the complexity and unique design of snow flakes and tell me there's not a giant snow machine in the sky.
After all, how can something that complex come about from purely natural forces??!?
/sarcasm
Not to appear to support these Islamic lies and deceptions, Box. My views on that are more than apparent. But . . . How can those "natural" forces come about from nothing or "we don't know" and still constitute scientific explanation?
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Old 01-03-2011, 05:14 PM
 
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Hey watchmaker, look at the complexity and unique design of snow flakes and tell me there's not a giant snow machine in the sky.

After all, how can something that complex come about from purely natural forces??!?



/sarcasm


Hey computermaker nature and it properties was created by Allah and we are the one who taught the basis of the science .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_j70bwkSqQ
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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you were not exist before.

now your are existing

how?

by the ability of Allah
And that, of course, is the hole in your logic. You're not willing to admit any other possibilities. Maybe it wasn't Allah. Every thread you've started, every argument you've made, comes down to a simple 50-50 proposition: either Allah is responsible for everything or not. There's as much chance that you're wrong as that you're right.
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