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This is why many people eat kosher food and use kosher products. They know the items with the OU mark is not going to have these items in them. And for the same reason I only buy Hahal meat (as there is no kosher butcher for 100's of miles). The closest thing I found one time for fast food was a place called Kosher King, but thats the closest I've ever been in the US for a burger and fries.
Why do people do this? Scare tactics without any substance. No source, no paper, no facts, just childish voodoo claims. Horrible.
I just ask myself how and why, if pork is so bad, the 4/5th of this planet that is not Muslim has survived the last 1000 years.
And today there is practically no way you can avoid pork or even alcohol anyway.
Why do people do this? Scare tactics without any substance. No source, no paper, no facts, just childish voodoo claims. Horrible.
I just ask myself how and why, if pork is so bad, the 4/5th of this planet that is not Muslim has survived the last 1000 years.
And today there is practically no way you can avoid pork or even alcohol anyway.
It is not just Muslims that do not eat pork, Neither do Jews, Sabians, Some Christians, Hindus, and all Vegetarians.
As far as eating pork for Muslims is is not an issue of health it is an issue of obedience, we are forbidden to knowingly eat it and that is the reason we do not eat it. If we were to unkowingly or unintentionally eat pork it is not going to harm us.
As far as avoiding eating pork and drinking Alcohol I have no problem doing so here in North Dakota. While it is true both are common and present in nearly every place I go, I have no difficulty in not eating or drinking either.
Whether other groups are equally inclined does not influence my view or opinion on the behaviour of Muslims. Why should it?
What I object to
1. the dogmatic "obedience" of an ancient, superstitious belief based in a hot, arid country in a different era
2. the futile attempt to enforce this in today's environment when almost everything contains pork anyway
3. an unsubstantiated, dangerous posting of an opinion based on belief and superstition, not facts, which can cost lives
As a result, innocent babies die - due to the bigoted belief of the parents.
As you quite rightly point out: unknowing intake will do nothing spiritually. But why go through with the pretence of avoiding something harmful, when it has been shown not be harmful anyway? Why not go and interpret it allegorically and say: don't eat what is bad for you? Instead we have lunatics making the claims the OP copy/pastes in here without checking or confirming anything. Sad!
Whether other groups are equally inclined does not influence my view or opinion on the behaviour of Muslims. Why should it?
What I object to
1. the dogmatic "obedience" of an ancient, superstitious belief based in a hot, arid country in a different era
2. the futile attempt to enforce this in today's environment when almost everything contains pork anyway
3. an unsubstantiated, dangerous posting of an opinion based on belief and superstition, not facts, which can cost lives
As a result, innocent babies die - due to the bigoted belief of the parents.
As you quite rightly point out: unknowing intake will do nothing spiritually. But why go through with the pretence of avoiding something harmful, when it has been shown not be harmful anyway? Why not go and interpret it allegorically and say: don't eat what is bad for you? Instead we have lunatics making the claims the OP copy/pastes in here without checking or confirming anything. Sad!
What makes you so certain the OP is Muslim? We are not the only ones who avoid pork. However I do agree with you about the scare tactics. Many of us Muslims do not avoid pork because we believe it to be unhealthy, we avoid it because we are forbidden to eat it. The OP should have been more specific and offered verification about the health dangers.
There is also another factor, all meat we eat has to be slaughtered in the Halal manner, it is virtually impossible to slaughter a pig in such a manner. So even if a pig were the healthiest of foods we still would not be able to eat pork.
The harm in eating pork is not because the meat is dangerous, it is because we sin by going against the command of Allaah(swt), forbidding us to eat it.
As far as this claim of yours that "almost everything contains pork" can you offer some verification of that? Keep in mind most of us have no issues over pigs except when it comes to consuming them.
What makes you so certain the OP is Muslim? We are not the only ones who avoid pork.
Did I say the OP is a Muslim? I was referring to your reply that other groups also refrain from eating certain things due to religious beliefs. Which is why I said I am not interested whether others do this as I am addressing Muslims only here.
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The harm in eating pork is not because the meat is dangerous, it is because we sin by going against the command of Allaah(swt), forbidding us to eat it.
I agree and that is the crux of the matter. The result is that people frantically search for reasons to substantiate their faith in a book, when rationality, reason and research shows there is no factual argument for the avoidance of pork. That's why you then get the raving lunatics who come up with the paragraphs quoted in the OP.
As for the methodology of the killing process, I think there is no argument in 2012 due to several studies into this.
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As far as this claim of yours that "almost everything contains pork" can you offer some verification of that? Keep in mind most of us have no issues over pigs except when it comes to consuming them.
Did I say the OP is a Muslim? I was referring to your reply that other groups also refrain from eating certain things due to religious beliefs. Which is why I said I am not interested whether others do this as I am addressing Muslims only here.
I agree and that is the crux of the matter. The result is that people frantically search for reasons to substantiate their faith in a book, when rationality, reason and research shows there is no factual argument for the avoidance of pork. That's why you then get the raving lunatics who come up with the paragraphs quoted in the OP.
As for the methodology of the killing process, I think there is no argument in 2012 due to several studies into this.
Most of which are not food products eaten by us. We are not forbidden to use pork or alcohol products in things that are not ingested. We can and do use many products that are not consumed. Even in the time of Muhammad(PBUH} pig bristles were used to sew clothing.
Bread, toothpaste, ice cream, butter, pills, yoghurt are products not eaten by "you", whoever "you" is?
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We are not forbidden to use pork or alcohol products in things that are not ingested. We can and do use many products that are not consumed. Even in the time of Muhammad(PBUH} pig bristles were used to sew clothing.
OK, then that's good news.
I have had Muslims not carry or come near anything that has had alcohol in it. So I can tell them to get real and stop whining as it has nothing to do with Islam or religion and is just personal idiocy.
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