Question about Shi'a Ayatollah's

[Woodrow LI]

Originally Posted by El Nox

I cannot state what the Islamic position is on the origin of the Universe. Without that knowledge, I am going out on a limb and make the assumption that it is similar/parallel to that of the Jewish and Christian (aka 'People of the Book') in that there was a starting point called Creation.

Your moniker boldly points out that you are "not-a-theist". Accepting the fact that this post is a drift from the OP, I am in line with the flow the topic has taken. Having said that, I am a believer in creation. Just how it was created leaves me wondering ... 7 days, big bang, what ever ... I don't know. However, all of this didn't just magically appear. The stuff of Day 1 just didn't come from nowhere, just as the energy which precipitated the big ban came from somewhere. The point I am making is there is something "which is greater than Man" out there. I have trouble with the much overused word God ... but all of this is something. As a "not-a-theist" and a person of knowledge of the Quran, what is YOUR perception of the origins and how is that view consistent/opposed to the Islamic text?

El Nox

just providing an Islamic view of creation

To a large extent Islam's ideas of Creation are in agreement with Christian, Jews and Sabeeans. Except we are more adamant in pointing out we do not know how long each Youm was/is. We assume they were very long eras as we are still in the 7th Youm. The word Youm although translated as day and today used for a 24 hour period, actual refers to an unspecified period of time. We believe the universe was created in 7 episodes and we believe we are still in the 7th episode of creation and Allaah(swt) is not resting as the Christians profess.

[resigned]

Well, Shiite's religion sounds like Islam but they barely mount up to 5% of Muslims population. Ayatollah term is restricted to them and not used from the rest of Muslims. Ayatollah means very advanced scholar who can innovate some rules. for me they are all misled and pray for Allah to guide them back to pure Islam.( to judge someone that he follows the right Islam, just look to Prophet Mohammad's behaviour and way of life coz that is the pure and the right Islam) what Shia are doing is different from pure Islam's teachings.