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Old 09-12-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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The fabricated hadiths
Many people – in the past and at present – have tried to insert weak and fabricated ahaadeeth into the pure sharee’ah and the Prophetic Sunnah.

But Allaah has thrown their plots back in their faces and has provided means of protecting His religion. source
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Old 09-12-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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Sadly, too many people quote Hadith without knowledge. While the Ahadith are for all people, it does require knowledge to understand the basic levels and how to verify the sources.

In many ways it is best to study them with the assistance of those who have done extensive study in the areas of Ahadith.
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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a heretic said to Haaroon al-Rasheed :
“What are you going to do about the one thousand ahaadeeth I have fabricated?”
Al-Rasheed said:
“What are you going to do, O enemy of Allaah, about Abu Ishaaq al-Fazaari and ‘Abd-Allaah ibn al-Mubaarak,
who will sift through those ahaadeeth and examine them letter by letter?”

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Old 09-12-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Sadly to many muslims try to invent a history that simply does not exist.

The reason we know so little of the people involved is becuse most were illiterate, and left nothing.

We have a series of tribes, validated only through real archeology that inhabited the Meccan area and that was not until 400 AD.

Then we have Muhammed supposidily showing up on the scene, with a documented history that goes back 2700 years.
Sorry, that did not happen.

The first 100 years of Islam is a black hole, from which nothing emerges.

Then we have nothing in writing, from anyone until Ishaq almost 200 years later. and nothing of signifigence by anone else.
Islam cannot even prove Muhammed existed at all.

Then 300 years later we have hundreds of thousands of writings mysteriousaly appear on the scene, claiming history going back a long time, but the catch is, they were all written in the 9th century.

The first 200 years of Islam depended entirely on the writings the appoligists now say are no good, however, these writings are the only ones on the planet and are used by muslims all the time.
I even see the people here bringing up quotes and information found only in these writings.



Something smells in Denmark

The writings contradict each other all the time, and the branches pick and chose the way they want to go
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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the problem is that all of the Qur'an and hadieths are fabrication, yes, there may be some history relating stories, but they are all the figment of someones imagination.

The big problem is the man created, and the religion written around, and the following of the religion that is causing so much havoc in the world today.

Islam is one lie after another, some of which I have exposed here, but anyone genuinely interested can follow from the start to the present, and I only use Islamic sources.
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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If I may quote Muhammed, Here is Islam in a nutshell


[SIZE=3]3:24 [/SIZE][SIZE=3]"They have been deceived by the lies they have themselves fabricated; their religion has deceived them[/SIZE]
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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If I may quote Muhammed, Here is Islam in a nutshell


[SIZE=3]3:24 [/SIZE][SIZE=3]"They have been deceived by the lies they have themselves fabricated; their religion has deceived them[/SIZE]

Might be easier to understand if you also post a few of the Preceding and following ayyat.

3:21 (Y. Ali) As to those who deny the Signs of Allah and in defiance of right, slay the prophets, and slay those who teach just dealing with mankind, announce to them a grievous penalty.

3:22 (Y. Ali) They are those whose works will bear no fruit in this world and in the Hereafter nor will they have anyone to help.

3:23 (Y. Ali) Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who have been given a portion of the Book? They are invited to the Book of Allah, to settle their dispute, but a party of them Turn back and decline (The arbitration).

3:24 (Y. Ali) This because they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days": For their forgeries deceive them as to their own religion.

3:25 (Y. Ali) But how (will they fare) when we gather them together against a day about which there is no doubt, and each soul will be paid out just what it has earned, without (favour or) injustice?

3:26 (Y. Ali) Say: "O Allah. Lord of Power (And Rule), Thou givest power to whom Thou pleasest, and Thou strippest off power from whom Thou pleasest: Thou enduest with honour whom Thou pleasest, and Thou bringest low whom Thou pleasest: In Thy hand is all good. Verily, over all things Thou hast power.

3:27 (Y. Ali) "Thou causest the night to gain on the day, and thou causest the day to gain on the night; Thou bringest the Living out of the dead, and Thou bringest the dead out of the Living; and Thou givest sustenance to whom Thou pleasest, without measure."
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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We know he was speaking of the non[believers, but in doing so, he showed his true colors.
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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And there is no easy way to read the Qur'an It is repetitious BS from start to finish.
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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And BTW, we have millions of muslims on a rampage throughout the mid east and Africa, that say they are using the right hadieths, and you are using the fabricated ones.
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