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Old 09-19-2014, 04:30 PM
 
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It is painfully obvious the Qur'an is a text that evolved over a 300 year period, and is not the work of one person.

If a person blindly accepts otherwise, they will never learn.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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It is painfully obvious the Qur'an is a text that evolved over a 300 year period, and is not the work of one person.

If a person blindly accepts otherwise, they will never learn.
Then mark me as one who will never learn.

I do not believe I accepted Islam blindly. I fought against Islam for nearly all my life and did not believe the Qur'an was the word of Allaah(swt) until the minute I accepted Islam.

If you had asked if I believed the Qur'an was the word of Allaah(swt) 10 seconds before I said the Shahadah I would have said no. I was very content as an atheist and I never thought I would ever believe in God after leaving 45 years of Christianity. I sincerely believed I was right during my 20+ years as an Atheist.

I had no desire to believe Allaah(swt) existed nor did I want to. In 20 years I saw no evidence of the existence of God. But, Allaah(swt) in a matter of minutes convinced me he was real and does exist.
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Old 09-19-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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This is the exact testimony repeated by millions form all religions.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:35 PM
 
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This is the exact testimony repeated by millions form all religions.
True

But, That is not proof it is in error. Just because millions of people believe something does not mean it is false.
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:50 AM
 
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True

But, That is not proof it is in error. Just because millions of people believe something does not mean it is false.
Actually it is proof of an error, and mental conditioning within the person themselves.

Persons from all religions experience this.


They cannot all be right.

There are over 3000 Gods on earth at any given time,

And some of these Gods do not work and play well with others.
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Old 09-20-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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Actually it is proof of an error, and mental conditioning within the person themselves.

Persons from all religions experience this.


They cannot all be right.

There are over 3000 Gods on earth at any given time,

And some of these Gods do not work and play well with others.
True they cannot all be right. But that does not mean they are all wrong.
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Old 09-20-2014, 08:20 AM
 
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True they cannot all be right. But that does not mean they are all wrong.
When there are 3700 Gods, at least 3699 are dead wrong.
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Old 09-20-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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When there are 3700 Gods, at least 3699 are dead wrong.
Or it can be some folks are simply worshiping the same god without knowledge.

There are now over 30,000 Christian denominations about 6 Jewish denominations, about 6 Muslim denominations and 1 Sabeean denomination. We all (with the exception of some Christians) agree we worship the same God(swt)
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Old 09-20-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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Except you are speaking of the Abrahamic religions, a minority of the religions, and BTW,t he Jewish, Christian, and Muslim sects of these are completely different.
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Old 09-20-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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Except you are speaking of the Abrahamic religions, a minority of the religions, and BTW,t he Jewish, Christian, and Muslim sects of these are completely different.
Yes , we are very different, but we each worship the SAME God(swt) in the manner we believe is proper.
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