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Old 01-15-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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Justice is not a real person. And who are the rest of those persons?
Vandelay is I believe a character invented by George Constanza
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Old 01-15-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Vandelay is I believe a character invented by George Constanza
Either way, I don't find it a good idea to name a reservoir after fake characters.

There are plenty of Mississippians to name the reservoir after. Why name it after a hard-core segregationist who basically sympathized with a bigoted murderer?
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Old 01-15-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Jackson, Mississippi
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There are plenty of Mississippians to name the reservoir after. Why name it after a hard-core segregationist who basically sympathized with a bigoted murderer?
Because he was Governor of Mississippi at the time and he oversaw the construction of the reservoir.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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Because he was Governor of Mississippi at the time and he oversaw the construction of the reservoir.
I still do not see the reason to name that reservoir after someone who basically tried to subjugate much of Mississippi's population, and sided with a murderer.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Jackson, Mississippi
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I still do not see the reason to name that reservoir after someone who basically tried to subjugate much of Mississippi's population, and sided with a murderer.
Well, like I've said before, at the time of the reservoir's construction, the things Governor Barnett were deemed right and just in the eyes of 1960s Jackson, Mississippi.

Obviously if the reservoir had been built today, it would not have been named after Ross Barnett.

Oh and Byron De La Beckwith murdered Medgar Evers, not James Meredith.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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Well, like I've said before, at the time of the reservoir's construction, the things Governor Barnett were deemed right and just in the eyes of 1960s Jackson, Mississippi.

Obviously if the reservoir had been built today, it would not have been named after Ross Barnett.

Oh and Byron De La Beckwith murdered Medgar Evers, not James Meredith.
Okay, I got the names mixed up. Still, anyone who would side with De La Beckwith, and be an ardent bigoted segregationist to the core, I don't see a reason to name anything after him. It doesn't matter to me that he oversaw the building of that reservoir. That's how I see it. If I had been living in Mississippi in 1960, what good would he have been to me?
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:40 AM
 
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Okay, I got the names mixed up. Still, anyone who would side with De La Beckwith, and be an ardent bigoted segregationist to the core, I don't see a reason to name anything after him. It doesn't matter to me that he oversaw the building of that reservoir. That's how I see it. If I had been living in Mississippi in 1960, what good would he have been to me?
In 1960 Mississippi, most White people in the state supported Barnett. Obviously African-Americans didn't, but he was seen as one of the greatest Governors of Mississippi at that time because what he was doing.

Again, it goes to what I was saying about the things he did being socially acceptable back then, as to today where if you had someone like Ross Barnett today, the guy wouldn't be Governor for long and he would be looked down upon for these things.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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In 1960 Mississippi, most White people in the state supported Barnett. Obviously African-Americans didn't, but he was seen as one of the greatest Governors of Mississippi at that time because what he was doing.

Again, it goes to what I was saying about the things he did being socially acceptable back then, as to today where if you had someone like Ross Barnett today, the guy wouldn't be Governor for long and he would be looked down upon for these things.
I look at it like this. It does not matter to me if it was "socially acceptable" back then. Right is right and wrong and wrong. That is how I see it. What he did was wrong back then and it's wrong now.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:34 AM
 
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I look at it like this. It does not matter to me if it was "socially acceptable" back then. Right is right and wrong and wrong. That is how I see it. What he did was wrong back then and it's wrong now.
Some times history is not pleasant, but its still history.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:50 AM
 
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I don't know about anybody else, but I'm a little sick and tired of so many things in this country being named after politicians, like they are somebody special. We have more than enough things all over this country named after politicians. Cities, states, streets, schools, airports, parks, we build monuments and statues and carve out their faces on the sides of mountains. one would think that we Americans worship politicians.

Who was Ross Barnett but another politician who pandered to his constituency. If you're gonna change the name of that reservoir, change it to somebody who isn't so divisive and polarizing and controversial. Maybe after muscian or blues person or an artist or an author from Mississippi or from Jackson, somebody that everybody can be proud of, or at least, ok with.

Not everything has to be named after a politician.
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